This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:00:00):
Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Kansas City Bucket List podcast. I am Mindy, your host, and I'm really excited to bring to you today Jerry and Jean Louis from Tara Vox Winery. Um, Tara Vox Winery is this sprawling, incredible, beautiful winery, vineyard, um, just north of Kansas City by 20 minutes. And we're gonna dive into all about the Missouri Grapes, um, what makes their award-winning wines so attractive, and the experience that you can get going to Terra Box and also finding them around town. So, really excited for you guys to tune in and enjoy hearing their story.
(00:00:41):
Thank you guys so much for joining us at the podcast today. Yeah, I'm excited to have you guys here. Yeah, thanks for having us. Super excited. We're gonna talk about Terra VX Winery, one of the most beautiful properties. We were talking about this before we started recording. Um, you know, we have worked together for several years now. Me coming out there exploring, doing some tastings and
everything, and I couldn't wait to have you guys in. We haven't had the chance to really sit down and talk about you, and we're gonna get into the story of ox. Um, but it is one of the most beautiful properties that I want everybody to get out to if they haven't been out to yet. So, um, thank you for having that as a part of the Kansas City experience. So Well,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:01:17):
Thanks for having us.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:18):
Yeah. Do you wanna introduce yourself?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:01:20):
Uh, I'm Jerry Eal, the, uh, founder proprietor, whatever I wanna call myself.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:25):
Sure.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:01:25):
Uh, Tara Box Vineyards and Winery.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:27):
And you've had Terra Box for how long now?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:01:30):
Uh, we moved up to the property in 1996 Okay. To start, started planting the vines and then got a, um, in 2012. Um, so the project was very much a kind of a, a living museum, kind of a hobby experience. Um, and, um, in 2012, my accountant in Farm Me that I needed to try to have an income
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:51):
Oh, sure.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:01:52):
As opposed to just an expense
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 1 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:54):
Life was calling and Yeah. <laugh>. So,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:01:55):
Uh, we, uh, we got in, uh, you the licensing and all that sort of, so that's, we became a winery in 2012.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:01):
2012. Okay. Good, good, good. And you are?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:02:05):
I'm Jean Louis or Vale. Mm-hmm
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:06):
<affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:02:06):
So I make the wine at Terra Box. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:08):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:02:09):
If
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:09):
I could have the title Wine maker, I mean, that's something that I aspire to. That's
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:02:13):
Pretty fun. It's a great title.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:13):
Yeah. I'm not gonna lie, I love wine. I love everything about, like, the lifestyle of it. I feel like you guys are living the dream and I need to be mentored by you guys on how to have my own winery someday, so that'd be fun. <laugh>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:02:24):
Well, my standard response when someone asks, how's it going? I always say, living the dream. Living
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:29):
The dream,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:02:29):
Literally. But no one ever asks what the dream is.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 2 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:31):
Oh, interesting.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:02:33):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:33):
Yeah. Could be many things. Well, good. Well, let's kind of get into, um, let's start with you. I wanna hear your background because you're from Missouri originally, right? Central?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:02:42):
Central Missouri. Central
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:43):
Missouri. And I wanna hear about how you got, like, what you studied and you know, what you did previous to tevo, and then we can get into the Terra Box story and how you really started this.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:02:54):
Well, um, let's see, depending on what your sense of humor is, depends on how I respond to that. I, um,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:00):
We love a good sense of humor. So
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:01):
Born on Little Farm, little town in mid Missouri that had 72 people after I left.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:06):
Wow.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:07):
So, um, went to college to the big city of Columbia, Missouri, to went to mu
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:11):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:12):
I had, uh, a pass of I think seven Ag scholarships mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:03:16):
<affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:16):
So, and it didn't occur to me that there was anything else you could do for a living, so
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 3 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Speaker 4 (00:03:20):
Sure.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:21):
I hadn't, you know, seen people in suits or ties or anything like that. Yeah. Because, um, so I did, uh, agronomy for a while and then discovered that there was a larger world that, um, the path led through sciences, but then sciences or things that you can pay attention and learn. And then the art program was actually what was confusing to me.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:40):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:41):
And my reasoning was that you're supposed to go to school to learn something you don't know Uhhuh
Speaker 4 (00:03:45):
<affirmative>. So
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:45):
I did that mm-hmm <affirmative>. And then, and then that led to a discovery of the Kansas City Art Institute,
Speaker 4 (00:03:50):
Which
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:50):
Was a much, much more disciplined
Speaker 4 (00:03:52):
Okay. And,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:03:53):
Um, yeah, the, the rumor, well, I think at the time the graphic design program there was second to Yale in terms of its discipline and Wow. And what you could do with yourself after you got through it
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:04):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:05):
That seemed like an interesting thing to do. Pretty
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:07):
Impressive. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:08):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 4 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Um, so I went through that with a major in graphic design and minor in photography.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:13):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:14):
But, um, the guidance counselor neglected to tell me that you were supposed to get a job in what you were trained to do.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:20):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:21):
Um, an animation studio moved into town.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:24):
Okay. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:24):
And that led to, um, something that was interesting. So a few years of doing that, uh, working in films, actually in this very studio Yeah. Many years ago.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:33):
That's so crazy. What a small world.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:35):
Yep. And then, um, an opening came up at the Kansas City Museum.
Speaker 4 (00:04:39):
Ah,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:40):
Beautiful. And that, uh, that trajectory has proved to, um, afford me plenty of opportunities to be surprised and confused and learned all sorts of stuff as you explore other topics.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:52):
Sure.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:53):
So in a way, the, uh, Vox program comes kind of out of the museum
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:58):
Really
Jerry Eisterhold (00:04:59):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 5 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Realm because, uh, doing a lot of research hanging around in archives and old bookstores that came across this book, Uhhuh
Speaker 4 (00:05:05):
<affirmative>, written
Jerry Eisterhold (00:05:06):
By one Thomas Ney Munson, where he described hundreds of grape varieties that he had bred out of 31 genuses of grapes that grew on the planet. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Of which most of them are native to the Midwest. So there's more diversity here because of the, we have the woodlands, the prairies, the Ozark Islands, the Mississippi Delta, all these eco zones are coming together, and that's where you get diversity.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:05:30):
Yeah. Which is why I really wanna focus on the fact that the obvious Right. Of like Missouri wines and why this is such, there's so much that people dunno about it. So this is fantastic that you're getting into that too. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:05:40):
Well, and the other, uh, part of that history is that back in the 1860 seventies, eighties, uh, a lot of Germans came over after the 1848 revolution. Um, or the Counter Revolution rather. And the Germans, I, my heritage Okay. Being, you know, the kind of systematic thinkers and thinking long term, you know, it's the idea of planting a tree, even though you might not realize the fruits.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:06:04):
Right.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:06:05):
Um, so they were doing a lot of fundamental work on viticulture mm-hmm <affirmative>. At the time, but prohibition came along and just blew all that out of the water. Mm.
Speaker 4 (00:06:13):
But
Jerry Eisterhold (00:06:13):
At until then, um, I consider Missouri to have been sort of the Silicon Valley of, of global viticulture. I mean, they were doing fundamental work on grape propagation, growing all that and breeding these varieties.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:06:27):
Yeah. And that is wild to think about. So what is that in the, was that the twenties, thirties?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:06:32):
Well, the vol I got, yeah. Twenties, thirties is when all that sort of died.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:06:36):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 6 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:06:37):
Um, and, you know, museums are all about sort of dredging up a history and trying to discover what's still valid for today and tomorrow.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:06:45):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:06:46):
And that's kind of where the impulse came from.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:06:48):
That's so interesting. So the, the book that you mentioned, is that something you as a wine maker, like, do you learn, did, did you read that book? Do you guys study the same things? Or like, what is your Yeah,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:06:57):
I, I it was definitely studying the book, but then more present handedly like what my predecessors, what Jerry did in the most recent years. 'cause Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:08):
Far
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:07:09):
To look up things about temper neo or cab. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:12):
There's
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:07:12):
A plethora of information. Yeah. But it's just this much, if that
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:15):
Barely scratching the surface,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:07:17):
The s the mkas,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:18):
So Yeah. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:07:19):
Yeah. In fact, to that point, one of the, um, one of the, the people at Mu um, gave us a really good piece of advice when he came because we've had them up to see what we're going on. Mm-hmm. He said, beware of people from afar bearing numbers,
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 7 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:34):
Because
Jerry Eisterhold (00:07:34):
You can't,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:35):
What does that mean exactly?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:07:36):
It means that you can't call someone out in California and ask them, what do you do about this, this grape? I see. Because there's no, there's no point of reference. Yeah. I mean, we, we are literally kind of writing the book or picking up where these, um
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:49):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:07:50):
These old Germans left off to figure out what, what, what Teka wants to be or what Chloe wants to be.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:56):
Right. Right. So, first of all, what's behind the name Terra Box?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:02):
Uh, it's behind driving to the accountant, realizing we needed to come up with a name. So I thought, well, you know, um, we do a lot of museums, Uhhuh, <affirmative> and museums are either canonical museums, like say the Smithsonian
Speaker 4 (00:08:13):
Uhhuh, <affirmative>
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:14):
Are there about the identity of a particular time and place or event. And I consider that we were, that we were kind of trying to see what specifically these grapes from this land had to say. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Hence Tara's voice of the land.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:28):
Got it.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:29):
Just like they're
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:29):
Voice of the land. Yes.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 8 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:30):
This is the land speaking through the grapes.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:32):
Do you guys, I, I'm like picturing you guys walking through the vineyard and voices speaking to you and giving you the newest, newest ideas for the things that you're gonna do. Does that happen? Or is that a little bit out there?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:41):
The conversation is much, much slower than that.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:44):
Oh, sure. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:45):
Because you say something, you try something with the grapes, they respond next harvest, then try something else. And so it, it goes back and forth, but it's,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:54):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:08:54):
It's a glacial pace.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:56):
Okay. That's fair. Um, so as I mentioned, ox is stunning. It's kind of these rolling hills in the Weston area, right. You said between Zona Rosa and,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:09:07):
Uh, yeah. It z Rosa and Weston.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:09:09):
Yeah. Right
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:09:09):
There on 45.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:09:10):
It is. How did you find the property? Was it you that found the property? Yeah. And what's, tell us about the experience for people that can come to the winery and, um, the winery vineyard today.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:09:22):
Well, um, the property first, um, the, my Soldier and through the agronomy program, you, I was working at the Soil Survey Lab Uhhuh.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 9 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Speaker 4 (00:09:30):
We
Jerry Eisterhold (00:09:30):
Were doing the analysis of various, you know, soils around the state of Missouri, including the low soils, the wind deposited bluffs along the Missouri River.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:09:39):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:09:39):
Uh, so I was in a lab doing the analysis of that stuff and kind of knew that I wanted a soil that was deep and mineral rich, but not a lot of organic matter. So you don't just have a lot bout of lush growth. You want, you know, fruit.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:09:53):
Thank goodness there are people like you that know how to do that. Yeah. I'm like listening to this being like, oh my gosh, foreign language. But I will learn someday, <laugh>. But
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:01):
Since, um, you know, I would imagine most winery start because you have a piece of land and your parents have, or whatever you decide to go grapes. But yeah, I had the option of actually picking a place to do this.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:13):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:13):
And it was my wife's idea to just rent a plane and fly around,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:17):
Ah,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:18):
And look for something that was close enough where she could commute into town to do her job at the Nelson. Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:24):
Um,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:24):
So we, we found this plot. Um, she did the test drive, and as I say, we were like 300 feet inside her boundary of, of sanity.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:32):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 10 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
There was a formula there. Got it.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:33):
Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>. Um, and then, um, yeah, then it's all, um, and then the, the other, um, design decision was to build our winery, et cetera, on one edge of the property mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:10:46):
<affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:46):
So you could look out on the rest of it. And we found a place that there, there's no, you can't see any buildings from anyone else Okay. From where we are. So you can imagine that you're in Tuscany.
Speaker 4 (00:10:57):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:10:57):
And the rolling hills up there, up north, along the river are, they're quite beautiful. Well,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:11:01):
That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm surprised, so I'm not from Kansas City originally, much like, you're not from here originally, either the area anyway. And, um, I'm actually surprised sometimes when I hear people who grew up here and they have not ventured into the area that you're in or many areas around kc. And I think it's probably just a matter of like, take someone coming into town to, you know, drive the hour, the half hour, whatever to do. But I mean, it is a, a no brainer. You know, I wanna say Hidden Gym, but it's not a hidden gym because we, we know Terra V, but everybody has to get there. And I see the images of like, you on the balcony staring out, you know, into the vineyard. And it's just so dreamy. It really does. It just hits exactly what you said where like, you can't see anything. But obviously during the, the seasons where it's green or things are in bloom, like, it's so beautiful.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:11:49):
And there are particular times, um, early on when, when it becomes, and the lightning bugs are out
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:11:55):
Mm.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:11:56):
They, they will paint the hills with little spots of light. It's, it's really quite
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:00):
Magical. It's so fun. Summer months, just like, is there like a couple months span for that? Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:12:04):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:04):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 11 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Um, yeah. So you came here. What's your story of coming from Texas?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:12:09):
So, from Houston, Texas originally
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:12):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:12:12):
Uh, by the time it was, uh, by the time college came around, the Dream school was go to ut. Yeah. So I wanted to be an engineer, and baseball was my first passion.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:22):
Okay. And
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:12:23):
Then I realized that I'm not, you know, baseball is, you know, totally different thing, so
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:27):
May not happen. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:12:28):
So I, I was spending my first year in Austin trying to get an EUT, and I thought I wanted to be an engineer. And due to some, uh, I guess transcripts and credits not getting to the admission, I just up and decided to go to Texas State in San Marcus. Okay. So, shortly after that, uh, you know, I'm just kind of involved with the engineering and whatever, and then start, then the coding classes came and more of like, specific of industrial engineering. And I just wasn't, I was too preoccupied of like, having fun in college.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:00):
Okay. Sure. Can't, can't follow you for that. Right.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:13:02):
So then it gets to the point where, you know, I come home for Christmas as soon as my parents, so my parents, every time I'd come back home to Houston, you know, they'd be in the front door, big hug. And as soon as we break the hug, my dad's like, let me see the grades. I'm like, come on, man.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:14):
No,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:13:14):
It's Christmas. We can't find,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:15):
Let's not go there. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 12 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:13:16):
So, anyway, he basically just said, um, you know, either switch majors or find a job. And so I had this epiphany and, you know, it was very, you know, in a dream I had this dream and I was like, okay, there's something to this. And anyway, long story short, you know, I I I get onto Netflix and there's like, on the suggested watch list. Yeah. It said like, uh, there's a documentary called A Year in Burgundy.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:39):
Okay. And so
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:13:39):
I'm like, okay, this is weird. I had this dream, I had this weird conversation with my parents, like, you know, where do we go from this? Um, so anyway, I start watching it, and as soon as I'm watching, I'm like, oh, I could do this. You know, this is, I just,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:50):
You just had this like, clarity of like, just
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:13:51):
Clarity calling or something. Inspiration. I, I think I, I was onto something like, this might be my life's purpose. Oh my gosh. So as soon as I, you know, start watching this documentary, pull up my lap, my laptop, how do you become a wine maker? I'm at Texas State. What do I do? So it just,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:07):
So were you drinking wine before that? Like, at that time?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:14:10):
Yeah. I mean,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:10):
Okay. So you had enough familiarity firsthand, <laugh>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:14:12):
Yeah. So Nicaragua and French, that's what all this is. And, you know, in that house, love it. There was always wine around.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:17):
Okay. Okay. So,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:14:18):
Uh, ironically, it was just my birthday this past weekend, and, uh,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:22):
Happy belated,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:14:23):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 13 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Thank you. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And, uh, I had posted a picture of the shots on Off du Pop that I had at Vita's Place, one of my favorite places in, in Casey.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:30):
Yes. Such a great spot.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:14:31):
And my, my godfather actually was like, this was your great grandpa's and your grandpa's favorite wine. I was like, oh, what a coincidence. We never talked about this. And, you know, whatever. So, anyway, um, where was I, I got, got to the point where, um,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:45):
So you were, you watched a documentary and you started thinking like, this is what I, I think I wanna do.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:14:48):
So, yeah. So, so very quickly, you know, I decided to switch majors, grade shoe through the roof, start doing internships. The first internship was for this Australian woman, um, in just outside of Austin, Spicewood, Texas.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:02):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:02):
So it's like right on the Lake Travis. And it was Stonehouse Winery. Mm-hmm
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:05):
<affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:06):
Then I found out that I could get college credit for it. So this is all unpaid
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:09):
Even better.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:10):
Yeah. So then the next semester, or uh, yeah, the next semester I applied to, uh, salt Lake Barbecue. They have a vineyard out there. Yeah. Okay. So it's in Driftwood, Texas, and started doing that. And, uh, as soon as I graduate, um, I guess I, I, I go to New Zealand for a little bit with my friends. It's like before adulthood really started.
Speaker 4 (00:15:31):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:32):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 14 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
So while I was there, I applied for, uh, Purnell Cellars. It's one of these premier wineries in, in the Hill country.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:38):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:38):
And so, Texas
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:39):
Hill Country.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:40):
Yeah. So I'm working there at that point. But, you know, the ironic thing was, you know, found this epiphany mm-hmm
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:46):
<affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:46):
Then I end up finding my now fiance. Yeah. Kendall Jackson. So just the universe has a sense of humor.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:51):
Her name is Kendall Jackson. Her
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:52):
Name is Kendall Jackson.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:53):
Yeah. <laugh>. That's so wild. Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:56):
And the same amount of residual
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:57):
Kendall
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:15:57):
Sugar too. Shout
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:58):
Out Kendall <laugh>. Look at that. I love it. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:16:00):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 15 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
So I just, like, everything kind of fell into place, and so it's just like, wow. Like, you know, whatever message this is, like, I'm just gonna take it and write it. So, um, yeah. So then eventually, uh, I think, uh, I started when I was 20, like right. Like getting into the industry right. When I was 20, I'm 32 now. Okay. And, uh, I think like two or three, maybe four years into it, I, uh, I called Clark Smith who wrote the book Post, post Martin Wine making.
Speaker 4 (00:16:27):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:16:28):
We had met at the symposium in the Hill Country. And, uh, so I called him up, I was like, Hey, do you have any opportunities, you know, looking for something? Um, he goes, oh, well, I'm, I'm at a wine tasting. I can't talk for very long. But 15 minutes ago, a guy named Jerry, he's working on this really cool project in Kansas City. He is like, I know you're in Austin and everything, but it's really, you should really check it out. So I was like, and then he asked, uh, how's your lab work? And I said, good.
Speaker 4 (00:16:50):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:16:51):
So then I finished up Texas State. I'm sort of at the tail end of Texas Tech University with the wine making courses mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:16:57):
<affirmative>. And
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:16:58):
Then the day before I actually met Jerry, I was, I, I had this dream, another dream. So I had, um, in this dream, there was like a skyscraper, but it was just concrete. I beam concrete, and I was at the very top floor, and I remember waking up and looking around, and it was just cornfields. And so getting to the air, I, I know Midwest and Texas, you know, whatever. But when I showed up and I actually got to the vineyard, it was just like complete opposite, rolling Green Hills, just Dr. Dramatic effect, different topography and microclimates in the vineyard. So I was just like hooked. And then we started doing the tour, and next thing you know, he drops me off at my hotels, like, do you think you can handle it? And I was like, let's go. I can do it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:37):
Let's do this.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:17:38):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:38):
Do you have the same memory of how that all went down?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:17:40):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 16 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:41):
Yeah. Sounds good. Oh my gosh. I love it. Yeah. I was gonna say
Jerry Eisterhold (00:17:44):
Also, he, he liked Kate's cooking. So that was, that was a critical
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:17:47):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:47):
<laugh>. Kate, your wife? Yes. Your wife. Okay. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:17:50):
So
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:50):
Fabulous. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:17:51):
She had this, this asparagus that was growing from the garden, and I had never tasted something so flavorful and it was just, it, it, it was as asparagus that trumped every asparagus I've ever had before.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:01):
Okay. Can I come over? We
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:02):
Just, I
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:03):
Love, and we're dipping
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:03):
In holidays. And I was like, Kate, like, I know I'm getting interviewed right now, but this is like the best asparagus I've ever had. And she goes, oh, thanks.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:09):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:09):
So actually my first week when I started, uh, Kate, you know, welcomes me and is like, oh, you know, welcome to Ox and everything. And she's like, by the way, you got the job 'cause you complimented my asparagus.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 17 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:18):
Yeah. There you go. Icing on the cake. Yeah. You're like, I know what I'm doing. I love it. <laugh>. That's really fun. So you, and back in the day, so what year was that? 12 years ago? Is that right?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:27):
So this was, uh, because
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:28):
Kansas City was a little different coming
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:30):
To Kansas City spring of 2019.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:32):
Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. I was gonna say like, you weren't, um, deterred by the fact that it's moving to Missouri or Kansas, you know.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:38):
Yeah. Kansas
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:39):
City area. No,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:39):
It was, it was almost like, um, you know, all the, the, I guess work mm-hmm <affirmative>. That Tara VX had done, he showed me this PBS feature.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:49):
You couldn't resist Jerry. I know, exactly. That's what it was
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:51):
So much to it. But
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:52):
The two j's over here. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:18:53):
There's just so much to learn. And to, I was just so excited about it. 'cause you know, when I was making wine in Texas, I was working with things like Tempranillo and Von and Alec Conte Boucher. It wasn't just the cabs, the Mabe
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:19:04):
Pinot,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:19:05):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 18 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
So the team Auo and Torigoe, it was a lot of cool stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:19:09):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:19:10):
And so, you know, temp and er were like my favorite at the time, still to this day, one of my favorites. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And then when I heard things like CTA and Tuka, I was just like, what is this? I gotta find out. And seeing the pictures of the grapes and how they're structured and how they be, it, it was just like, I gotta learn more. So yeah, I was really excited about that.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:19:28):
I love that. Um, by the way, I really wanna have like a dream analyst
(00:19:33):
On this. I'm trying to find someone to come on because I'm, I am the person who wants to learn a little bit about a lot mm-hmm <affirmative>. And these topics come to mind. And there are a couple people in Kansas City who like work with people to kind of analyze their dreams. And I've never been through that myself. So I'm thinking of you like, I got a few. Sure. <laugh>. Okay. Yeah. I'm like, you have you talked to somebody before? Yeah. That's, that's really interesting. That's a great story. Um, okay. So let's talk about the wines that are in front of us and let's talk about what you guys are most proud of, what you're known for, um, the experience that people get when they get to have Terra Box
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:20:04):
Wines. Yeah. So one of our bread and butters sort of what we have mostly planned in the vineyard is our Norton. So, uh, you know, we've played with Norton in different, many ways. Not just free run and press, run fractions, but early harvest, middle harvest, late harvest. We've played with port styles, different variations and stylistics of reds and even some roses. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So, you know, when I came on board, Jerry said, we have a Sonia version and we have a sunny slope. So the sunny slope's a little bit more reductive, where the Sonias, which translates to bleed, picks more oxygen up. Okay. This hyper oxidation before fermentation. But it's really just the Crush Pad style to like actually collect that free run juice. Mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:20:43):
<affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:20:43):
So there's that kind of, you know, I guess different tiers of Norton
Speaker 4 (00:20:47):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:20:48):
So, you know, over the years it's been like this seven year long experiment to figure out like if we want to call it Norton Reserve, 'cause it tastes really good, like what makes it reserved. So we're trying to really like
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 19 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Speaker 4 (00:20:59):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:20:59):
Search for Typicity and, and these stylistic approaches, but also just like notate, notate, notate everything.
Speaker 4 (00:21:06):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:21:06):
So one of the first ones that we have is right here, the Norton Reserve. So this is a combination of the free run fractions, the Late Harvest Norton. And so that's what we have right here. Um,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:18):
That's kind of, is that kind of like the, what you're most known for? Is that what you
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:21:21):
I would say kind of put this on this like, national spotlight of our Norton. Okay. So
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:25):
Yeah. 'cause you guys have your award-winning wines, obviously. Yeah. Many of them.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:21:29):
You know, in fact, the first time we submitted to San Francisco Wine Chronicle competition, uh, the first thing that got us our best in class was our Norton.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:36):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:21:36):
Um, but yeah, I guess you want tell 'em about how Sonia came about. Like how, what? I actually never asked you that. Like how did we start <laugh>? Well,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:21:45):
I'm glad y'all get to learn something new today, this <laugh> Um, well, to back up one second. So, uh, the initial planning of the vineyard was about 25% Norton.
Speaker 4 (00:21:54):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:21:55):
The, the theory being that if everything else was a bust, I would at least have some grapes that were known to produce Okay. A good wine.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:22:01):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 20 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:02):
In fact, in 1873 in Missouri, Norton won the best of class at the Vienna World exposition.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:22:07):
Ooh, that's a fun fact.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:09):
So that was also, um, something I came across that convinced me that there was something of world class quality Yeah. That was a potential of these grapes.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:22:18):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:19):
Um, so we have all these other varietals that mm-hmm <affirmative>. We just have enough to see on does it make a good wine? And what is that? But Norton, there's enough that we can play around with
Speaker 4 (00:22:29):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:30):
And basically pull it apart. And, you know, uh, normally with a red, with a, wed grapee, you crush it, you make wine from it.
Speaker 4 (00:22:38):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:39):
Um, but we played around with pressing it fairly immediately, which brings off the juice, which does not have all the red color in it. So you have
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:22:48):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:48):
Like a rose
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:22:49):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:50):
Or you do a little bit later and you have a redder that we can oxidize, make the sae mm-hmm
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 21 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Speaker 4 (00:22:55):
<affirmative>. Um,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:22:56):
But then if you make a wine from the pulp that remains, it's much, much more concentrated
Speaker 4 (00:23:00):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:23:01):
And then playing around with making, uh, fortifying it and making a port.
Speaker 4 (00:23:05):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:23:06):
So there's all these parts and sometimes we'll, we'll do that with, uh, there's another grape called Albania that we'll kind of pull apart and make three different ways, then blend them back together again. Okay. And that, you know, increases the complexity of the wine that you get.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:23:19):
Love it.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:23:19):
So it's, um, it's sort of considering the way grapes is sort of fundamental building blocks with which to structure a wine that we can hopefully come up with kind of a recipe that we can stick with going forward. Yeah. But until we get to that point, you know, we're still playing around with some of the grapes to see kinda what's the best way of dealing with them
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:23:38):
Living the dream. Yeah, for sure. I mean, there's, there's so many different grape varietals every year. It's like our mission to be like, okay, we think we figured out much mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:23:46):
<affirmative>. But
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:23:46):
Then we find another style that maybe is better than the previous year. But you mentioned Albania and there's actually a good story here. Uh,
Speaker 4 (00:23:55):
Yeah. So
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:23:55):
You'll notice right here, you see how the labels and mirror image, you wanna tell her how Oh yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 22 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:00):
That
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:24:00):
Came to be
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:01):
Well 'cause, uh, TTTB that has to approve all of labels, their, their, uh, mission is to prevent, uh, consumer fraud.
Speaker 4 (00:24:08):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:09):
And, uh, their concern was that if someone saw the word Albania on the label, they would assume that we had grapes from Albania. And so they wouldn't let us put the word, uh, we couldn't even say, these grapes are not from Venia. We can't use the word at all. So,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:26):
Wow.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:26):
They, uh, we submitted this as just a, a, a graphic.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:30):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:31):
And they, they bought
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:32):
That in the past.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:33):
I love it. Now the, the next chapter of that story is we also have a grape called America.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:38):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:39):
Now the America grape is, uh, really unusual. It tastes well unusual.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:45):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 23 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:46):
It's, uh, even in the taste in the notes from the 1870s when people were talking about the grape, they'll say, boy, this is really unusual. They wouldn't, I mean, but
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:55):
There was no other descriptor to
Jerry Eisterhold (00:24:56):
It. Like far like the way talk about, well the guy was funny looking. What can you describe? No, he was just generally funny looking <laugh>, you're like, that doesn't help me. So it's kind of, it's just unusual. Yeah. But, um, we can't put the word America on the label either. And so we try the same trick of just doing it backwards as they were onto us. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:13):
So,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:25:13):
Dang it. So we, we, we just put the, the vowels on
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:17):
The consonants.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:25:17):
No, the consonants.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:18):
Right. Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:25:19):
<laugh> left the, left the vowels off, and which means we have to explain it, but, you know, it gives us a chance to talk about the grape,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:24):
The storytelling. It's all details. That's so fun. Um, okay. So for people to find your wine, obviously they can come visit the winery, right? Um, tasting room. Um, they can do a, let's talk about that experience. Like when people make the trip, um, to come to the winery, can they just walk in, show up? Are you open year round? We're obviously talking in winter right now, and I wanted to talk about the igloos as well. Yeah. So you can kind of throw that in. Yeah. So for the winter experience, we
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:25:51):
Just wrapped up this sort of like a half a year. Uh, so we con we converted our website from Squarespace onto WordPress.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:59):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 24 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:25:59):
So we brought a new system 'cause we had fragmented systems of POS and e-commerce and all these different things.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:26:04):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:26:05):
So we brought in this new sophisticated like website and, uh, part of it was, well, is it gonna help us tell a story? Mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:26:13):
<affirmative>. And
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:26:13):
Also sort of this like gallery to sort of, if you want peruse and you want to geek out on all the wine stuff, it's definitely there.
Speaker 4 (00:26:20):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:26:20):
So like the other features that we had is like, you can create an account and see, you know, I wanna order this or join the wine club, or I wanna stay in touch with all the events that's going on. So mm-hmm <affirmative>. The websites first and foremost, like the portal to kind of like start the process there. Yeah. Um, but, you know, where we encourage people to come visit, you know, so when you pull up to the driveway, that's kind of where the experience starts. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Because <affirmative>, because the driveway starts Right. Where the east block where Jerry first planted begins.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:26:46):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:26:47):
So when you come up the driveway and you pull in, you find your parking spot as soon as you walk through the hallway, it's just this, and you've seen it floor to ceiling.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:26:55):
Yeah. Just amazing
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:26:57):
Showcase of the vineyard.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:26:58):
Very unique. Yeah. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 25 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:00):
Yeah. So we, we've had, you know, we're thinking about like, so as of right now, that's where we can have repairing events. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. That Austin, our new director of hospitality, he is been with us for this year. But
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:10):
Shout out Austin,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:10):
Shout out Austin <laugh>. And, uh, but yeah, he, he does everything from like, pairing the wines to these, uh, what's in season, these different kind of meals and stuff. So this is awesome experience. Um, so
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:21):
Those are happening now. Like you can go on and find,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:23):
That's happening now. So we typically, we'll have these pairing events once a month. Okay. We're thinking about maybe increasing the rate of it mm-hmm <affirmative>. Like how many times we wanna do it, but we're really just trying to learn from our audience and kind of pick it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:27:33):
Pick
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:34):
It up from there. Um, the biggest thing that, you know, we're, we're happy to announce is the wine bar that we're gonna be building this, this early spring.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:43):
Woo.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:44):
So that'll be
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:44):
The, what can we expect with that? Is it gonna be in the space that you have now, or? So
Jerry Eisterhold (00:27:48):
It'll, it'll be outdoors. So we're having to, you know,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:50):
Amazing
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 26 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:27:51):
Build up a retaining wall, some flat space to do this so that you can sit out there in the outdoors. Mm hmm
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:56):
<affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:27:56):
Big roof. Mm-hmm
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:57):
<affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:27:57):
Um, and, um, look out over the vineyard
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:27:59):
Amongst the vines too. So I can't wait. It's very close to like, the corner of the vineyard, so it's really, whoops. It's really just right there.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:05):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:06):
So, you know, there'll be, uh, there'll be like a fireplace at the wine bar. There'll be this large wine bar itself. It's gonna be open concepts, so there only close will be the bathroom and the kitchen prep area.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:16):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:16):
Um, you know, it's so, you know, with a little bit of nibbles and some wine mm-hmm. People can really feel the cathartic experience. And it really is ethereal once you're actually just like hanging out and drinking some wine,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:26):
Add those lightning bugs in too. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:28):
And
Jerry Eisterhold (00:28:28):
You, you've been there. I mean, the, the hills are very, very rolling. Yes. So by the time you, you're on top of this, you'll, you're looking down
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 27 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:35):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:28:36):
Over all this rolling land down the road. Yes. Yes. It's a, it's,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:39):
Our family has been there and our girls have like, run through your rolling hills, so <laugh>. Yeah. They had a lot of fun too. It's a great spot. Um, that's amazing. So that's coming in the spring. Yeah,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:48):
It'll
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:48):
Be here for summer 2026. Spring. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:50):
So we're hoping to have some sort of like,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:52):
Perfect for fifa. That's
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:53):
Right. For
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:53):
Anyone. Fifa. FIFA come visit FIFA people. Yeah. <laugh>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:28:56):
Um, so yeah. Uh, and then with the igloos, uh, so we have these really great ethereal sort of igloos
Speaker 4 (00:29:02):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:29:03):
We got them from Poland, and it's polycarbonate. It took a long time to set it up. And it's on this wind deck, so it comes equipped with a JBL Bluetooth speaker, a Dyson air control. So if you want to, it purifies the air, it sort of keeps it cold or warmer. Nice. So kind of up to you. Um, the, I guess the, uh, at the base of it, there's some of the LED lights, so it really adds the experience mm-hmm <affirmative>. So whether you wanna do like a date night or you want to have some of your friends over and just like the eight of you guys just hang out and drink some wine, you even have some games out there too. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's a really fun experience. And the other thing it's worth mentioning is our transition path to, you know, for while we have the colder months is sort of this theme of like, APRI Ski Cottage. Perfect. That's sort of the
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 28 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:29:45):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:29:45):
Theme we're leaning into mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, so yeah, that's, that's kind of like everything that's going on right now and what to expect.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:29:52):
How long will the igloos be there?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:29:54):
So typically once it starts getting like warmer, that igloos sort, that dome sort of, kind of feels a little toastier inside.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:01):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:30:02):
So, uh, by that point we'll sort of pack up the igloos and sort of treat this wine deck as like an extension of like events.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:08):
Okay. So, and I wanna say too, you know, for people, like for example, I live in South Overland Park, so I'm probably about an hour from Terra Box. Um, you know, I think it's, it's good to remind people too that there's plenty of, you know, boutique hotels nearby and Airbnbs, things like that. Make a weekend out of it, make a night out of it, obviously Uber. Yeah. Um, whatever the case may be, um, for other people that might be like, well, you know, I don't wanna drive home or mm-hmm <affirmative>. Whatever. So it's such a great area to make.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:30:36):
But we're all told it's, we're about 20 minutes from North Kansas City.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:39):
Yeah. Yeah. So it's not even, not far, but you feel like an escape right. When you're there. I
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:30:43):
Mean, I live in Everland Park too, it takes me 35 minutes. Yeah. I remember when I used to make wine out in, in Fredericksburg
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:48):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:30:49):
I lived in Austin, so one way was an hour 15. And we are so spoiled that we're like, the vineyard not only is so close to the airport.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 29 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:55):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:30:55):
It's also close. It's like exactly 27 minutes from like, the crossroads.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:00):
Yeah. That's perfect. Um, you can find the wine where else outside of the winery.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:31:05):
So outside the winery we've been working with, uh, so room 39, we've been, we're close Oh, sweet. With the folks over there at Ted and Andrew over there. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, so, uh, Bluebird Bistro on the west side,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:17):
Love,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:31:17):
Uh, cellar at one of our favorite, you know, wine shops.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:19):
Yep. Crossroads. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:31:21):
Underdog and Brookside. Uh, we may be in Constantino soon, I'm not sure. Soon. Well, teaser, teaser out. Uh, uh, what else? Uh, Gomer, mikes Plaza.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:33):
It's a lot of places around town. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:31:35):
It's all over the place.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:36):
Yeah. Um, and then, okay, so for the wine club, let's talk about that. Yeah. Because that's been going on for a while, right?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:31:42):
Yeah. You know, it's, it's a cool opportunity where, you know, you know, oftentimes we're wondering like, Hey, like how's, you know, how are people really taking in? So community thing is like the first thing we think about when the wine club is, you know.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:54):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 30 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:31:55):
So we'll have these pickup parties twice a year. So once in the spring, once in the fall. And we used to do 3, 6, 12. So we'd have Riley Circle once in society and GLE Collective, you know, his collective for the, for the 12 tier. Uh, so now we do four or six and 12.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:32:11):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:32:11):
So you don't pay any dues. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. It's just really like, uh, you get first dibs on like the rarest of the rare, or, you know, something that's just like, we think this is tasting amazing right now. You guys get first dibs.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:32:21):
Nice.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:32:22):
So it comes with like this some
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:32:23):
Extra perks. Yeah. We're
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:32:24):
Trying to build more of the experience and also the community. So some of these folks that been our wine club members since I've been, even before I joined the team, you know, they're, they're seeing the place grow. They're seeing the different styles and where the wine's kind of veering off to and
Speaker 4 (00:32:37):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>. You
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:32:37):
Know, trying to drive more attention to some of the events. So we're trying to make the wine club more of an experience Okay. Versus just like, Hey, I just expect something at my door and it's my club.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:32:47):
Yeah. There's also like getting them to come in Yeah. To, to have and then bring or maybe get that like, uh, what do whatever you call it, shipment there, they pick it up there locally. Yeah. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:32:56):
And there's, there's also a particular aspect of kind of exploration for the wine club members. 'cause if you think about all the different varietals that we do, some of the vintages are quite small.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:33:07):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 31 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:33:08):
And so we wanna give first dibs to the people that are more interested in being part of this particular community. 'cause it's not like, um, it's not like most other wine clubs where you sort of know what you're going to get every year.
Speaker 4 (00:33:21):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:33:21):
This is particularly on the other end of that spectrum where you're getting a lot of things that you know, are gonna be unfamiliar.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:33:28):
Right. Right. Love that. Kinda curious, like how do you, I mean, you touched a little bit on like how you started getting in interested in you as well, but why wine versus beer or bourbon or what do you think it is about wine that you guys are drawn to?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:33:45):
Well, for me, wine is, I mean, nothing against good beer or good single malt scotch, but I think wine is the thing that is, um, fundamentally agricultural and particular to where and how it was grown.
Speaker 4 (00:34:01):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:34:02):
With the potential to become transcendent if it's really done well. And on the way to transcendence, there's the matter of pairing it with food. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:34:10):
So
Jerry Eisterhold (00:34:10):
You have to see if you consider wine as a food, and that it either enhances or counterpoints, uh, the thing that's on your plate.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:34:19):
Sure.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:34:20):
It just makes it a little bit more complex and fun. And it, it, it's more of a, um, it affords conversation.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:34:27):
Love that
Jerry Eisterhold (00:34:28):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 32 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
More so than just, boy, this is a great beer. I mean, you know.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:34:31):
No, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. I love a good beer too. Yeah. But it's a different experience. Yeah. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:34:35):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:34:35):
What
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:34:36):
About you?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:34:37):
I like his answer better.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:34:38):
<laugh>, you're like, I saw a documentary and I had a dream. And Yeah. <laugh>. No, I, I
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:34:43):
I love how cyclical it is. Yeah. Like this time of the year we're, you know, pruning and it's just all the, so lavage for example, it's just a French word for raising. So when the chaos of harvest kind of slows down, there's, there's always something to do. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. I like that. You know, whether it's pruning or bench trials or sampling wines or what do we want to do with this blend? So kind of figuring out, so like the, the wine making side of it is also what I appreciate. 'cause there's, there's times where I'm trying wines from somewhere else. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. I'm just like, how the heck do they do this? Like, yeah, I need to look, figure out how to do that <laugh>. But no, I just like the, I like that there's an opportunity where your storytelling, when you're with your friends mm-hmm <affirmative>. Maybe the wine's not the focal point of the conversation, but it seems to be like a fun enhancer. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. It seems to be always part of it. I don't know.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:30):
I love fun enhancer. Yeah. 'cause that's totally resonates with me. Yeah. It's, I mean, yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:35:34):
I don't know. I haven't, it's funny 'cause I, I can't, I don't have a really good answer of
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:38):
No, that's okay. I was
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:35:39):
Wine in the Curious, the first place. I just, I just happen to love it, so.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:41):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 33 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:35:42):
Well, and, and Elva, I mean, it is like an education.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:35:45):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:35:46):
You're, you're, it's like a child. You're, you're, you're trading, you're bringing it along and you're, you know, when do you intervene? When do you let it have its have its way, uh, you're really kind of bringing a living, being into, uh, into fruition.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:59):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:00):
Literally fruition. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:36:01):
When it's time to bottle, they're off to college.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:03):
Off to college. So we were talking a little bit before we started recording about your travels that you do for either of you. Do you have any places around the world that you just highly recommend people go if they love wine, if they really wanna throw themselves into a really cool firsthand vineyard experience? Anything that sticks out to you?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:23):
Well, let's see. I mean, there, there's kind of a traditional arc where, um, people who discover wine, they discover California, then they discover France, and then they discover Italy and Spain.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:35):
Okay. Kind of goes in that order
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:39):
Ish, according, according to this narrative arc,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:40):
According to the Lord.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:41):
Uh, but meaning that Italy and Spain, I mean, the wines are much more diverse and complex and it's a little
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 34 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:47):
Harder
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:48):
To figure out than just burgundy bordeaux. Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:51):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:51):
That sort of thing.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:52):
Got it.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:36:52):
And then of course, California is California, but then once you go beyond that, uh, you know, we've been poking around the world, uh, South Africa.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:00):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:00):
It is a beautiful country. Great. A long flight. Long flight.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:04):
My husband and I went there for our honeymoon and we went to Stellenbosch mm-hmm. In Ranch Hook.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:09):
Yep. Did
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:09):
You go to those? Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:10):
Yep.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:11):
Unbelievable. Yep. I feel very fortunate that we were able to do that. And I mean, a totally different experience than you. Who knows a lot. <laugh>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:18):
We were just in Turkey for, oh, and Turkey being a Muslim country, you wouldn't think Uhhuh,
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 35 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Speaker 4 (00:37:23):
But
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:23):
There's a 82-year-old German guy that, um, he, he had a career in doing, you know, wildlife conservation around the world. And then some years ago he discovered all these native Turkish grape bridals. So he is kind of doing what we're doing on a more limited scale. He's got like eight or nine varietals. Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:42):
But
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:43):
He's got these phora
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:44):
Uhhuh and
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:45):
Some of them have hitite markings on them.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:48):
Whoa.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:48):
I mean, we're talking millennium old. That old.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:51):
That is wild. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:52):
And he's making these wines from these weird grapes.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:56):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:37:57):
Um, uh, and God bless 'em, God bless them doing the same thing
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:38:00):
<laugh> with museum artifacts. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:38:02):
Right,
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 36 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:02):
Right. Yeah. Okay. Well that's good to know. Yeah. Um, have you been, we talked about Texas Hill country, if you wanna talk about that roots? Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:38:09):
I mean, the roots I love to Texas Hill Country. Uh, the other only other region that I've spent like, more time, it was, it was in New Zealand, so the Marlboro That's right. Central Ortega Hawk space. Those were really like, sort of enlightening
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:22):
When
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:38:22):
I was sort of getting my start Uhhuh.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:24):
Um,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:38:25):
The plan is to go to Leon, France for our honeymoon. Amazing. And after our wedding in March. And uh, yeah, I I'd love to kind of start there.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:33):
You can write that off as a work trip, right?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:38:35):
Well, we'll see. Yeah,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:36):
We'll work that out.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:38:37):
<laugh>, I don't know, <laugh>. Uh, but yeah, no, I, I think, um, you know, there's, there's places like, I'll, I'll read about like the Azures too. That's another spot that I've been like, it's on the list. So
Jerry Eisterhold (00:38:47):
Theres, by the way, the primary Portugal,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:49):
Is that what you're talking about?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:38:50):
They're a Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:52):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 37 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
The island.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:38:52):
They, yeah, they're owned, owned by, governed by whatever. Okay. Yeah. The primary grape there though, was bred by one, um, uh, Daniel, uh, Norton, who was born, um, um, in Osage County, Missouri. Oh.
Speaker 4 (00:39:08):
And
Jerry Eisterhold (00:39:08):
He is buried there. What?
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:09):
But
Jerry Eisterhold (00:39:10):
He, he bred a grape called Elvira.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:12):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:39:12):
And that's what they grow over there.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:14):
Oh, interesting. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. Okay. So you mentioned Harvest a little bit ago. I wanna hear about what that, 'cause that's in the fall, right? Yeah. Is that like September, October? Like, what's the experience like for you guys doing that in the, is there anything that we as the public can participate in when it comes to harvest season?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:39:31):
Yeah. So typically for us, uh, harvest kind of kicks off like it used to be later August. Now it's like mid August we're kind of,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:39):
Oh, okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:39:39):
August 13th. This the soft start
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:42):
Date.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:39:43):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 38 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Yeah. So when, when harvest kind of kicks off, it can last as long. Latest has been like first, second week of November. But typically average is between mid-August to like, almost exactly on Halloween day.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:39:54):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:39:55):
So October 31st. Um,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:39:57):
Because if you think about it, which I didn't when we started out
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:40:01):
<laugh> Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:40:01):
<laugh>. Um, when you have all these different varietals, uhhuh, they're all behaving differently and they're ripening at different times.
Speaker 4 (00:40:06):
Mm.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:40:07):
So we're making a lot of it means that not everything happens at once.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:11):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:40:12):
Um, but it also means there are only certain of those harvests over where there's enough grapes where a bunch of people can come and help, help pick. But when there, when that occurs, boy, howdy, come on up.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:22):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:40:23):
I
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:23):
Gotta do that. That'd be fun. So then what do you guys, I mean, is the like grape stomping a thing, is that more just commercial?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:40:29):
It's a thing if the crusher just summer breaks
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 39 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:31):
<laugh>. Yeah. Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:40:32):
So, but no, we, we we're sort of, we have a really good handle on like the efficiency and like our logistics of like bringing in the grapes. So have a crew come out as soon as the grapes are picked and they're dropped off to the crush pad, it's take the weight, go in the lab, take some analysis, chemistry, take some, you know, get your additions ready. Then we hit the crush pad crush to stem everything, get all that stuff ready. So, you know, when we do have our picking parties or our harvest parties where people can kind of veer into it, what I've always noticed is people want to help on the crush pad too. Mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:41:05):
<affirmative>. Because
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:41:05):
It's like, it really is a full circle. So you have a combination of like, it's Christmas day, all the presents are ready, so it's time to like get your presents.
Speaker 4 (00:41:12):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:41:13):
And then it's like time to play with your presents. So you're getting the wine making, so it's a full circle sort of thing. And you know, you get to feel like a wine maker for a day. Yeah. And it's really fun. I, I'm obsessed with it. Yeah. And so other people start getting like,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:41:25):
You know, I'm so intrigued. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:41:27):
Big, big eyed about it. It's, it's really fun. So, you know, it's a combination of like this sort of like, this gotta stay disciplined, gotta be you person. It's a tough time, but it's like the best of time.
Speaker 4 (00:41:40):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:41:40):
So like, by the time it's done, it's like what I would imagine, um, you know, these rock stars are comedians when they're done on stage, like their ears are still buzzing and Right.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:41:50):
Let's,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:41:50):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 40 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Like how do you kind of come down from that? Yeah. And so it takes a little while to sort of transition into like the slower period
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:41:56):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>. But
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:41:57):
That slower period doesn't mean that there's, you know, there's always something to do with the winery.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:01):
And
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:42:01):
So Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:02):
I love it. That's funny. I just watched, um, the Taylor, uh, Taylor Swift, like one of her episodes of her tour and she said after a show it takes her and like four to five hours or more to like come down.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:42:13):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:14):
So she's like asleep by 4:00 AM you know, 'cause she can't just go back to her hotel and go to sleep. So. Makes total sense. Um, I kinda wanna go back to, 'cause obviously people like myself are drinking wine at home a lot. So can you give some examples of like, which wines pair really well with things that we might make at home, whether it's making an Italian dish or we're grilling steaks or pork chops or something like that. Do you have any recommendations for people?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:42:39):
Yeah. Uh, so this dorton, you know, what we found is like, I think for proteins, probably lamb is probably our sort of sweet spot mm-hmm <affirmative>. When it comes to it mm-hmm <affirmative>. Whether it's a rack of lamb or, you know, any other kind of preparations that I'm failing to think of right now.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:53):
Nice.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:42:53):
Uh, but one of the interesting things about Norton that Jerry's wife brought up, it's like pretty nice when it comes. It's, it's kind of hard to pair a red with like a tomato-based, you know? So like, whether it's new mommy or something more of like a to tomato centric dish
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:07):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:08):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 41 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Nor one's pretty, it's pretty flexible in that regard.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:10):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:43:11):
So
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:11):
That's
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:11):
Good to know. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:12):
And,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:43:12):
And the Norton port, uh, like anything chocolate mm-hmm. It's, it's really, really nice pairing.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:19):
Yeah. You
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:20):
Guys have historically done some events pairing wine and chocolate mm-hmm
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:23):
<affirmative>.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:23):
Are you guys still doing that? Yeah. Will you do more? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:26):
I try to host as much as I can. It's, it's, uh, I have found with our Chris, so one day we're out in the vineyard mm-hmm <affirmative>. You know, I'm just trying to think of like, you know, why do we only drink Rose in the, in the summer, in, in, in springtime? Why do we only drink port when it gets colder? It's just like, why, why know?
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:42):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:42):
So anyway, uh, I had this idea, so I think we had dinner one time and someone brought these chocolates mm-hmm <affirmative>. And I was like, these chocolates are amazing. We're like, where are, where are these from? They're like, oh, it's from here. It's like, from Kansas City.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 42 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:55):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:55):
So I was like, okay,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:56):
We gotta do that. So
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:43:57):
One day I'm just sitting in the vineyard and tying up the, the vines and then I think to, well, maybe we should reach out to them. And this is sort of like right when COVID was starting to clear out a little bit.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:07):
Yeah. Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:08):
So one day, uh, I asked Jerry and Kate like, Hey, let's go to the Crossroads. And I think it was that day that they had just opened up their, their location, the Crossroads mm-hmm <affirmative>. So we went in there and met with, uh, their team and some of the C chocolatier and we just, I called and I was like, can we do this pairing? We're trying to find this like, perfect pairing and create an event out of it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:27):
So
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:27):
We go out there and do all the samplings. Luckily I lived a block away, so I could just like crawl back afterwards. Perfect.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:33):
So it was
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:33):
Clutch
Speaker 4 (00:44:33):
Crawl
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:34):
Back
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:34):
<laugh>. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:34):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 43 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Yep.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:35):
And then, uh, so that just kind of became this event that we started doing like once a month since 2021 or so.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:41):
And it's with Christopher Elbow.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:42):
It's their chocolates. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So, you know, it's funny because you see these complete strangers become like best of friends afterwards. Fun. So fun. It was the chocolate and the wine, so be it. Yeah. But like, it's, it's a cool experience. And what's fun is like, that's just like one, like a, a tiny fraction of
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:58):
What Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:44:59):
Like in, in terms of exploring the wine, it's like one fraction of like, the exposure of getting into ox and Yeah. You know, we, I like to say this, it's like, so we have like the Nortons, we have Vines and Tranet. So some of them are like these sort of stepping stones. Mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:45:16):
<affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:45:16):
So you get to this fence and you kinda like tippy toe. And you see this whole world of like the CITAs, the mkas, the favorites, the, we were talking about Long John on the way in, you know, it's, it's a cool catalyst to sort of like, dive in. So whether it's the elbow event or the igloos, there's just so many different like, uh, portals to sort of explore what we have to offer.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:36):
Are there any, um, partnerships or collaborations that you want but haven't done yet? Like, shout out some things here that maybe we wanna find some local companies to partner with.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:45:49):
Well, you know, we've done stuff with, uh, Boulevard that we, we did a pet net kind of collaboration with them. We did one with torn label, I think right around the time I joined in.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:57):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Awesome.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:45:58):
In terms of like, uh, one, that'd be really cool. I don't know what
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 44 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:01):
To be determined.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:02):
Yeah,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:03):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:04):
Uh, yeah, I mean,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:05):
I'm even thinking of like some of the cattle farms and stuff, like doing something with like, you know, yeah. Some state companies or something too. Could be fun.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:11):
I, I would like that
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:12):
Require
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:13):
Farmers.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:13):
Yeah. Well anyway, food for thought. Yeah. Um, okay. So back to the wines. Can you talk about some of the award winning wines that you want to really recognize?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:23):
We just submitted 13 to San Francisco two days ago. Oh, wow. So we're super excited to see. So one, I think we actually submitted every single one of these. Um, so, you know, besides the Norton, you know, this Tuka report, I think this is another one. So Wetumpka is typically, I guess like probably our most like, popular white Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:44):
Or
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:44):
Like poor sherry style that we make.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:46):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:46:47):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 45 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
So I'd say for those that tuka kind of, it kind of behaves like Norton. There's like so much to do with it and so much to play with it. Um, so yeah, I think our Tuka reports definitely one of the things that we do best. Even the, we have a sherry style version of this too, so that
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:03):
I love those bottles too. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:47:04):
These bottles are slick, aren't they?
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:05):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:47:06):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:06):
And it's fairly unusual to have a white port out there, but, uh,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:10):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:10):
This Grapee will, uh, this is, uh, one of Clark Smith's suggestions. You think he thought that it had enough nice tannon and the structure to withstand fortification, and by golly, it it does. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:20):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:20):
But, um, yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:21):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:22):
And then the, the sherry version, it's a, it's a very oxidized thing. It, it's, uh, it's, you would never guess that those flavors would come outta that grape if you just tasted the grape.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:32):
Really? Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:33):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 46 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:33):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:34):
It, it's close to tasting like a single malt scotch.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:37):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:37):
Which is not what you get from it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:39):
No kidding.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:47:39):
Yeah. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:40):
That just reminded me, going back to South Africa, we went to, um, a winery and we will never forget the guy working there had made a reference to like, you might, um, taste some pencil shavings in there. And we were like, what?
Speaker 4 (00:47:52):
Mm-hmm.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:53):
Like, is that normal? Mm-hmm. To have like, something obscure like that as something that you might like, what are some other interesting things that, you
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:47:59):
Know, it's,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:59):
You guys recognize that other pe people like me might be like, what? It's funny
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:48:03):
That you say that. 'cause if we say delicatessen has blueberry notes or pomegranate notes
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:09):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:48:10):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 47 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
You know, even though it's an innocent question, you're like, do you put pomegranates in the wine? It's like, no, no, no. That's just the grape kind of showing
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:16):
Itself organically coming out.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:48:17):
Yeah,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:17):
Yeah, yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:48:18):
But we have a grape called Lenore
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:19):
Uhhuh, uh,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:48:20):
Which can have some of that pencil shaving, uh, element to it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:23):
Okay. So that was legit. Yeah. We learned something. We were enlightened that day. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:48:27):
Yeah. Love
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:28):
It.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:48:28):
And then like with the Tuka, I think every year, kind of what he was saying at the front half of it, but every year Tuka always has this Missouri papapa. I think in general, like with our ter off that we have, I think that with our white wines almost seems like Apple is like the common denominator with the white wines. Okay. And then when, when it, when we talk about Tuka, it's almost like instead of the apple, it's more of like a papapa mm-hmm <affirmative>. Like the Missouri Papapa,
Speaker 4 (00:48:53):
But
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:48:53):
It kind of veers into like this, we're gonna go tropical. But then when you pick up that pineapple, it's sometimes it's ripe, sometimes it's like grilled. So it's just a dependent on like where the pineapple goes.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:03):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 48 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:49:04):
But in general, it's very tropical.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:06):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:49:06):
Whereas Albania, you know, there's three styles that I make it. So when I take the fruit, I divide it into three lots. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. One's gonna be treated like a white wine. Then the second lot's gonna be treated like a two day skin contact. So sort of like a red skin fermentation. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Like you would with red wines. And then the third one is completely all the way through its fermentation skin contact. So it's textural.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:28):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:49:28):
It has some of those stone fruits to it. So it's really nice when we, we blend them all together to make this one. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. I mean, multi pour glass. You wouldn't think it was an orange wine because Mm.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:37):
There's
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:49:37):
So much so the colors just change dramatically. That's so interesting. Depending on the style that we make it.
Speaker 4 (00:49:42):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:49:42):
And then America, um, one year, and it's not a consistent thing, but it tasted like meat. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:48):
Oh.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:49:49):
Which is a also, so,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:51):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 49 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:49:52):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:52):
Unusual. Tell me more. Wow. That is fascinating. I'd like to try that. I'll be curious. So I could pick that up. <laugh>. Um, well, good. So we also have this book here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:02):
Yeah. Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:03):
Tell us about this. Is this something that people can buy?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:05):
Uh, yes.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:05):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:06):
Available on the website. We got a, uh, well, we decide there's a show
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:11):
To the cameras. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:12):
There where the, um,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:15):
I'll find a picture of each of you to show,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:16):
People ask a lot of questions, and we hear a lot of, oh, rumors and misinformation about what people have heard about Missouri wines over the years.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:24):
I know. I was gonna say, do we dive into that a little bit or? Uh,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:27):
Yeah. So we, we dove and with, uh, <laugh> with Bronwyn who was, who was on the museum side, she was our, uh, researcher writer since, you know, way since the beginning
Speaker 4 (00:50:38):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 50 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:38):
So, uh, we took about two years to kind of dig through all the documents and all the research to try to put down an accurate story so that people could understand
Speaker 4 (00:50:48):
Here we are,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:50:49):
Where these grapes come, what was unique about it, what these Missouri pioneers did. Um, yeah. So it, it, and it's a graphic novel format. Um, I initially, I am in the book I, that was against my initial wishes, but, uh, she convinced me that there needed,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:04):
You have to be in the book.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:51:05):
Well, there needed to be some kind of, you know, character to tie it together. So I'm, I'm just there as a guest, uh, <laugh> presence.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:11):
So humble. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. Any, any other, anything else you wanna add on the whole like Missouri wine thing for people to understand that, I don't know where the, I don't know. There's like a, if you call it a stigma, I don't know if people are not educated on,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:51:26):
It's, it's a stigma. Yeah. I, I, um, I <laugh>
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:29):
There's so much to learn about.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:51:30):
I know. Um, what was the Saturday Night Live, uh, thing they did once where, uh,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:51:34):
It was, uh, they were saying it was, so it was a COVID era skit, Uhhuh
Speaker 4 (00:51:39):
<affirmative>,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:51:39):
Where they were saying like, Hey, you know, our grocery store picked apart, but we have plenty of X, Y, Z,
Speaker 4 (00:51:44):
Uhhuh
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 51 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:51:45):
<affirmative>. And one of the, I guess the ex was, we got plenty of Missouri wines. And so we looked at each other and we're like, come on man. What? You know who, yeah. Who? Yeah. So I wrote that. I,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:51:55):
Well, I don't know who wrote those. I wrote them in a long letter. Uh, could,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:58):
Did you
Jerry Eisterhold (00:51:59):
Accusing them of viticultural racism?
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:01):
Oh my gosh.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:52:01):
They, they didn't respond. No, respond in any positive way. But
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:04):
Yeah,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:52:05):
There, there, um, yeah, it, well, it, you know, frankly, um, okay, after prohibition mm-hmm <affirmative>. After it was repealed, um, every state had treated the it differently. And, um, I, one of the interesting fact I learned is that the, uh, alcohol consumption, because of the bol, that act went down only 30%. There was the industrial exception, there was a religious exception, there was a medical exception. There was a, the home. So, and then there was of course the bootleg exception, so Right.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:37):
A lot of loopholes
Jerry Eisterhold (00:52:37):
Really. Um, but, um, but uh, in California they retained their, the ability to make wine 'cause they were doing all the sacramental wine, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (00:52:47):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:52:48):
Um, including selling kits of grapes with instructions on how to make wine with a note that say, don't do this or you'll end up making wine. That kind of thing.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:56):
That's funny.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 52 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:52:57):
Yeah. But in Missouri, they took out the infrastructure to make wine.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:01):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:53:01):
So they were left with, uh, you know, all the vineyards converted to Concord for, for the Welch's grape trade or whatever.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:07):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:53:08):
Uh, and it just took a long, longer time for Missouri to recover. Yeah. The quality wine label. And you, that makes sense. Once you, once you lose your place in line.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:18):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:53:18):
You know,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:20):
Right there,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:53:20):
There it was.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:21):
Obviously you can't, um, you know, argue with when you're winning awards for your wine, you know?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:53:26):
Yeah. But the word has to get out and, you know, our, our, at least our thesis is that, um, the stuff that comes from this Missouri, these, these grapes are deserve a place on the world stage.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:38):
And I know firsthand, 'cause I've tried so many of 'em and have come back many times, um, and love working with you guys. It's so fun. Um, anything else that you guys wanna add about what makes you so proud of what you guys have created here and provided to Kansas City as this really incredible experience?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:53:54):
Well, the workshop not done for sure.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 53 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:56):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:53:56):
Yeah. But you know, I think, like, it's so fun when you discover something and you find that there's much more to it. It's just like people Yeah. Like, oh, like maybe I judged this book too hard. But then I read the book and I was like, wow, what a great book.
Speaker 4 (00:54:12):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:54:13):
So there's that and kind of backpacking what, what he was saying about these grapes. It's like, I have found personally, so I've gone out there to city market, we've done the, you know, uh, uh, showcasing of the wines. So all we have is just a fold up table, black linen, some of the wines and maybe some marketing collateral.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:54:32):
Sure.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:54:32):
And what I have found is that, you know, people always say to me like, oh, like is it sweet wine? Are you making wine slushies? It's like, no, it's not. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So in order for us to kind of get these wines to be taken seriously, we sort of had to make it this way. But at the same time, we make things like Tuka where there's a tiny bit of residual sugar, but I call it like a ya bottle, where both swat sweet and wine drinker can enjoy the same thing. Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:54:57):
So
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:54:57):
What I've found mm-hmm <affirmative>. And my excursions to city market <laugh> is that, uh, I'd say eight times outta 10, someone prefers sweet wine.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:07):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:55:07):
But then when they tried Tranet or Vin or maybe the Munch, or maybe sometimes the Norton mm-hmm <affirmative>. Know, depending on what it is and what we're showcasing that day, I have found the Midwest is full of closeted dry wine Dreamers, <laugh>, they just didn't know it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:21):
I love it.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:55:21):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 54 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
And I think that's the part that makes it so unique, because you smell the wine and you taste something totally different than you expect it to taste like.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:28):
Right.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:55:28):
So there's like, that's, that's one of my, that's first takeaways because, you know, before it's just, you know, what do you have to kind of work off of
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:35):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:55:35):
But then when you kind of have this, uh, this introduction to it, just like, it, it just doesn't stop.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:42):
Right. I love that. I love that.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:55:45):
Well, um, a couple things for me, and, um, in a previous podcast about a year ago, someone that said, well, you begin, you should explain why you're doing this. And I couldn't think of a reason. And then after I thought a little more, I said, well, actually that was the reason. 'cause there is no reason to do this. There's no one with a business plan or any sane project management regime would do this sort of thing. Yeah. So therefore it was sort of up to me
Speaker 4 (00:56:11):
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:56:12):
To do it because nobody else would.
Speaker 4 (00:56:14):
Hmm.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:56:14):
Um, but then the gratification comes, remember I come from a museum mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:56:19):
<affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (00:56:19):
Designing museums, and in museums you're, it's, they're about education. You're trying to move someone from their initial state of knowledge or assumption to another state of knowing something more mm-hmm <affirmative>. Than they did when they walked in mm-hmm <affirmative>. And you're not lecturing
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 55 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
them, you're not telling 'em to read a label on the wall. You have to demonstrate through some evidence or experience that will make them realize something. And that's what the, this is the evidence and we have to get people up to actually have the experience, see what's going on, and, uh, they come back with a better appreciation. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:56:56):
Not
Jerry Eisterhold (00:56:56):
Just of the wine mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (00:56:57):
<affirmative>. But
Jerry Eisterhold (00:56:57):
Just I think a reward for being, for exploring and having that social experience with people and, um, um, and really understanding the, the whole benefit of the strategy of diversity.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:57:09):
Yeah. I love the social communal aspect of wine. I think, like, again, I listen to a lot of podcasts and they cover a variety of topics, but everything in life really boils down to like the quality of your relationships and people around you. And to have that, you know, and if you don't drink, obviously you're not gonna have that. But if you do, this is such a great way to add it into your, your family, your circle of friends. Like it's such a great enhancement enhancer. Um, and also really amazing that you can take what you learned in designing museums and apply it to a completely different industry. That's really cool. The way that you kind of think about,
Jerry Eisterhold (00:57:47):
Well, we could argue whether it's a completely different industry or not.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:57:50):
<laugh>. Well, okay. That's fair. Yeah. That's very true. Um, well, good. Okay. We're gonna get into some rapid fire questions Okay. And ask you guys, um, if you, if you're ready for it, unless you have anything else you wanna add that we didn't talk about yet. So we'll go for it. All right. For both of you, what is currently on your Kansas City bucket list? What do you wanna do? Um, what would you like to check off your bucket list here?
Jerry Eisterhold (00:58:15):
Oh, I gotta check out the rabbit hole.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:17):
Me too. I haven't been yet.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:18):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 56 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:18):
Need to go. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:21):
I'm drawing a blank.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:22):
Great one.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:22):
There's so many places that
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:24):
I know that's what I do.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:24):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:25):
You know what happens to me? People are like, Hey, have you, have you gone out to eat somewhere great recently? And I'm like, I can't think of anything. Lemme go check my own Instagram Yeah. To see where I was, because my mind freezes.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:34):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:35):
Um, come back to that one.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:38):
Yeah. Well, you know what, I just came back, sorry, chiefs fans, but I just went to the Texans and Chiefs game, go Texans. And that was, that was my bucket list, so I finally got that one. So next would be the Royal Stadium.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:49):
Okay, great.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:58:50):
I have not been to game yet.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:51):
You haven't been to a Royals game at all. I know, I know. I was like, are you talking about like the new stadium that will eventually come to be Yeah. But you're talking about Yeah, that, yeah. <laugh>. Um, okay. Is there anyone that you would love to see or hear on this podcast from Kansas City or anyone you think that people would really be enlightened by? Uh,
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 57 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:08):
Jason Canor.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:09):
Okay. Yep.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:11):
I'd say Dr. Paul. That'd be a cool one.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:14):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:14):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:15):
Do I know who Dr. Paul is?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:16):
He's, uh, he's sort of this leader in the study of ecology. He's like the ecology.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:20):
Okay.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:21):
I guess the the mushroom guy. Yeah,
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:22):
The mushroom guy. Okay. Perfect. He's
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:23):
Done all sorts of Cool. Anyway.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:25):
Love it.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:25):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:26):
Okay. Look, that's good. Um, is there anything that you guys would be curious to know more about the Kansas City lifestyle history, lifestyle today, things that are happening in and around Kansas City?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:38):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 58 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Hmm. I personally would love to being a Texas born, I would love to find more, I guess episodes of Kansas City, like different eras of it.
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:50):
Okay. Yeah. So
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:51):
I know there's museums to go to, but I'd like to see sort of like the peanut, it was once a speakeasy, that's the kind of a
Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:57):
<crosstalk>. Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (00:59:57):
But then you can also good the Nelson and there's plenty to see of Nelson and, you know, the way they came up with the, you know, the, what, what's the word I'm looking for? The setup of the lawn and the shuttle
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:08):
Cap
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:00:08):
And like, how that came to be. Okay. I love finding out things like that.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:11):
Sweet. Anything come to mind for you?
Jerry Eisterhold (01:00:13):
Oh gee. Um, I mean, I, I started my museum career at the Kansas City Museum, so I kind of waded through the most of the greatest hits of Kansas City history, I
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:23):
Think. Yeah. You're like, I'm good. I know so much <laugh> mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:00:26):
I, I,
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:26):
We gotta get the Kansas City Museum on for sure. So
Jerry Eisterhold (01:00:29):
Yeah. I, um, yeah, Kansas City has a history of, you know, being a place where lots of things happen and I think that's often unappreciated
Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 59 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Mm-hmm <affirmative>.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:00:40):
And particularly in the arts. And I think the arts are kind of where a place figures out who it is, what it wants to be.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
Yeah. Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:00:47):
So I think that the history of Kansas City Jazz in particular is, I think is kind of unsung.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:52):
I need to find a lot of people who can dive into the history of Kansas City and all these different areas, music and arts and everything. Yeah. I'm, that's definitely on my, my bucket list for sure. Um, okay. To piggyback on that, what do you think makes Kansas City so unique? So great.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:01:08):
Hmm. Well, while John's thinking of the, um, it kind of lets you do what you gotta do,
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:22):
What do you mean by that?
Jerry Eisterhold (01:01:22):
Well, there's, there, there's, um, it's a low threshold of opportunity to jump in and do something. Okay. Generally. Okay.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:30):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:01:31):
It's not, it's not as stratified or as, um, I don't wanna say rigid. It's not as solidified as a lot of, um, other cultural centers are.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:41):
Got it. That makes sense. I like that.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:01:44):
Yeah. I, I, I think, uh, you know, outside the, the barbecue identity, the sports identity, I think outside of that, I really like the art scene. I really like the food scene.
Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Mm-hmm
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:01:56):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 60 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
<affirmative>. I think the food scene is something that has not been fully tapped into yet.
Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Yeah. Like,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:02:01):
I love Room three nine mm-hmm
Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
<affirmative>. But
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:02:03):
I love going to Slabs Barbecue too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
And
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:02:05):
I think even if you find somewhere I knew Omae Place that just opened up
Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
Uhhuh <affirmative>,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:02:10):
I feel like it's never, it's, it's done with so much intention and pur it's so purposeful.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:15):
Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:02:15):
And I think there's a lot of spirit that shows when you visit these, these sort of food spots.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:20):
You know, it's funny, again, we moved here from Chicago 10 years ago and um, I think the food here, Chicago has an incredible food scene, but Kansas City's food scene is incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:30):
And even living here, I will not make it to all the places that I want to. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. You know, as much as we're out and about, like we're really lucky. Yeah. So I like that. Um, okay. Do you have a favorite hidden gym in Kansas City? A place that you like to go to or make it not so hidden?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:02:46):
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 61 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Tarbox Winery.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:47):
Tarbox Winery. Okay. That's a great answer. Yeah. <laugh>, is that your answer too?
Jerry Eisterhold (01:02:52):
Um, well, of course. Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:54):
Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:02:55):
No
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:55):
Brainer. Okay. Um, and then the last question for you is, if you could eat at, I might know, you might have just said yours, I don't know. Um, if you could eat your last meal on earth at a local Kansas City restaurant, where would you have your last meal on Earth?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:03:13):
I think I would have to, I would have to have it at room 39 with Jerry and Kate there, especially Kate having some influence on what we're eating that night. Yeah. With my fiance's,
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:25):
She, does she get in the kitchen and make some asparagus? Maybe
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:03:27):
Kate is the goat Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:29):
When
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:03:29):
It comes to like putting in this cuisine from her, you know, her upbringing or something that she found somewhere else on the planet. So I
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:38):
Think, I love that you guys are like family. This is
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:03:39):
Thing Ted Hager and I'd say Kate.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:41):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 62 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:03:41):
Somewhere, somewhere there.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:42):
Great. What about you?
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:03:45):
Uh, you're
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:46):
Like my kitchen <laugh> my wife. Well,
Jerry Eisterhold (01:03:49):
Yeah, actually,
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:50):
Yeah. <laugh>,
Jerry Eisterhold (01:03:51):
But behind that would be Ted. Ted did the, uh, he's cooking our holiday dinner tonight, so, yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:56):
Oh, amazing. Yeah.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:03:57):
Yeah.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:58):
Very fun. Great answers. Okay. Um, and the last question is, where can people find you? Both the winery, socials, website, all the places? Yeah.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:04:06):
So if you type in Te Box Winery on Google, you'll definitely find it. But our, uh, website's, Tevo do Wine,
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:04:14):
Okay,
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:04:15):
E-R-R-A-V-O-X. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Period Wine.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:04:18):
Okay.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 63 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com
This transcript was exported on Feb 12, 2026 - view latest version here.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:04:18):
Uh, our Instagram handle, which we just got back.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:04:21):
Yes.
Jean-Louis Horvilleur (01:04:21):
Uh, so it's Tevo Winery and, uh, find us on LinkedIn. Yep. Find us, uh, uh, look out. There's, there's some, there's some big things coming in 2026.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:04:32):
Very, very excited. Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for coming on. This was really, really fun. As, again, as somebody who is a big fan of you guys, loves wine, um, has worked with you guys over the last couple years, this is fun to get to talk to you more as well. And congratulations on having this amazing winery. Um, it's such a great story, and I'm really excited for 2026 and what's to come. Yeah. All right. Thank you so much. All right.
Jerry Eisterhold (01:04:54):
Thank you, Mindy.
Mindy Hargesheimer (01:04:55):
Thank you. Thank you so much for tuning in and finding inspiration in these incredible stories. If you love what you hear, be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. Leave a rating and share the show to help these Kansas City voices reach even more listeners.
Jerry Eisterhold Jean-Louis TerraVox mp3 (Completed 02/12/26)
Page 64 of 64
Transcript by Rev.com