Kansas City Bucket List

 Mindy Hargesheimer (00:00:00): 

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm excited to have you back and for the guest that I had  today, who is Ginger Roth. She is the owner of Compassion Fix here in Kansas City. And, um, something  that I am most excited about with this discussion is just recognizing the fact that everybody today is  dealing with being a human and being a human is hard. Um, she and her team have developed this  incredible organization that offers one-on-one therapy, counseling, as well as workshops, um, to attend to  a variety of needs to help everybody going through maybe a difficult time in life. Um, and we talk about  some really cool things about how to focus on your day to make the best of it, and to really come back to  that self-love and, um, find compassion in this, you know, difficult world that we can we find ourselves in  sometimes. So I'm really excited for you guys to hear the conversation that we had and what you take  away from it. Enjoy. Thank you so much for coming in. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:06): 

Oh, Mindy, this is an honor and so fun. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:08): 

This is so fun. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:09): 

I love being with you and your energy and in the studio is so cool. I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:12): 

Know. Speaking of energy, that's exactly why I brought you in as the, the, um, ultimate compassion of  Kansas City. Right. We can say that. So, okay. <laugh> Ginger Roth, right. With Compassion Fix. Yes.  Um, we were talking earlier, we got connected through a friend, so we both went to ku. Yep. Um, KU  friend of mine, Sarah Kna, her sister Megan Anderson Yes. Is a therapist with you Yes. At Compassion  Fix. So shout out to those two <laugh>. Yes, yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:38): 

Awesome 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:39): 

Women. Yeah. And I got to meet you when I came to, um, a workshop Yes. As I would call it  Compassion Fix a few months ago, and I think it was sound therapy. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:47): 

Yes, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:47): 

It was. That 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:47): 

We did. Yeah. That was so cool. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:49):

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So we ended up connecting there and talking, and then we started chatting and we were like, we have to  have you come on the podcast 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:55): 

To talk about what you're doing. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:56): 

Sorority. Yeah. Kay 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:57): 

Omega. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:57): 

Yeah. No, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:01:57): 

It's so cool. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:01:58): 

I know. It's such a small world. It's so thank you for coming on. I'm so excited to talk to you. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:02:01): 

Yeah. I am thrilled to be here. Thank you. Yeah. Your work is so cool. What you're doing 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:05): 

For Kansas 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:02:06): 

City is so cool. Oh, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:07): 

Oh, thank you. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:02:07): 

Just invoking this energy of, haven't discovered this, I've been to the restaurants. You've shared, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:13): 

I've done the 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:02:14): 

Things you've shared. Good. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:02:14):

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Awesome. I mean, that is the goal, truly. And as I talked about when I first launched the podcast, I said, I  truly want to know a little bit about a lot. Yeah. And so on the podcast, you're gonna go from having, um,  somebody who works in the restaurant industry to, um, personas around town, different, like Yeah. I  have, uh, almost Andy Reed who came on <laugh>, and then we've got nonprofits and therapists and  compassion fix on. And so I want this wide variety of topics, content business owners here, both to talk  about how you got into Yeah. The business here, what you're doing for Kansas City, and then also for the  people that are looking for your services to get connected. Perfect. As you talked about. Awesome. So  let's talk about Compassion Fix Yes. And what it is. Yes. Um, to start with. Yes. Then we'll get into your  backstory, which is really fascinating Okay. To hear about how you got there. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:03:02): 

Yeah. So yeah. So Compassion Fixed Today is a team of therapists and coaches and, um, we try to have  providers that will care for all, all things on the spectrum of being human. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:17): 

So 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:03:17): 

We say being human is hard and we're just here to help. And, um, so we have teen coaching and parent  coaching and nutrition and grief, um, mental health, physical health, soul health, faith classes. Um, also 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:33): 

A wide variety of things. There's such a lot of things, so it's perfect. It's like perfectly aligned with what 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:03:38): 

I'm gonna do. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. And yeah. And, um, you know, one of my thoughts when I was  developing the business was, uh, it would be so cool if Kansas City was the most compassionate city, and  then that love spreads to the coasts. Oh, I love that. And so I've just always held this vision of like Kansas  City being so full of love and it already is. And if we're just, it's 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:03:58): 

A unique city. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:03:59): 

Yeah. It's a unique city. And if we're just more and more intentional about it, I think then it just grows and  mm-hmm <affirmative>. You know, right now we, we can push back darkness with love and Kansas  City's full of it. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:04:09): 

Yeah. So, I know I ask people a lot, what, what do you think makes Kansas City so unique and so great?  Like, it just seems like a different beast. So you moved here from Cincinnati, which we'll get into. Yes. I  moved here from Chicago, um, you know, different sized metros. Yes. But at the same time, there is just  something Yeah. That is here that we moved into 10 years ago that I just was like, I, I've never seen this  

before. Yeah. You know, it's really interesting. Um, but also this is like, for me, the perfect time for you  to be coming in here and talking, because I think everybody could agree that this world is bonkers right  now. Right. <laugh>, I don't know what's going on, but it just seems so heavy and dark in a lot of ways.  And we've gotta, like, I'm like, how do we get that full circle to get back to like more of that light, more of 

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that positive energy and like, that is the work that you're doing, and I think this is gonna be the incredible  platform to get the word out to Kansas City Yeah. That you guys are doing. Yep, exactly. Um, and so  we'll get to like, eventually of course, how people can find you and everything, but how did you get here?  What's your backstory? It's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:05:05): 

Kind of crazy. Mindy, like you said, <laugh>. So, um, went to ku, grew up in Kansas City, um, went to  KU and started in a business career with a, one of the big six, uh, consulting firms at the time. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:05:18): 

Like so many of us Yes. That corporate world. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:05:19): 

Yes. And it was awesome. I learned a ton. I, you know, I'm so grateful for all that training and I met my  husband through that job, so that's an awesome gift. Um, but it just as I was more and more successful as  a consultant, I just kept thinking, there's not, this isn't what I'm supposed to be doing. Um, the helping  people part was there, I was a change management consultant, which meant I helped people adjust to  change. Yeah. Um, which if I had a, you know, um, crystal ball, I would've seen, oh, this is all equipping  me for where I'm headed. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:05:49): 

Right. Yeah. But I couldn't see 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:05:51): 

It at the time. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:05:51): 

You can only look backwards and connect the dots. Right. That's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:05:53): 

Right. That's right. Um, so I, uh, got an MBA, uh, grew the consulting practice, um, kept kind of climbing  the ladder and then stayed home Oh. Taught at Xavier as an adjunct for five years Okay. In the business  school. And that's where I really found, I'm actually a teacher at heart. Yeah. Um, this is actually my  essence. And I loved those students. Now they're all having babies and we're still connected. Yeah. And  it's so fun to, to see them thrive, but that's where it really, I started connecting the dots of, um, I'm  supposed to be a teacher and I'm supposed to help people mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:06:28): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:06:28): 

And then I, we moved to Kansas City to be closer to my parents and ha for our baby years. And, uh, I  stayed home for a while, and then I got the itch to go back to school. And so I was thinking, I love being a  student and I love learning. Yeah. And so I was thinking, what should I get a PhD in? That was kind of  the path I was on. Love it. But nothing was aligning, and the business had kind of run its course in my  brain. And I, I just, my husband's an entrepreneur, so I was like, I, you know, the reality of business 

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versus the theory of business is so different. Sure. <laugh>. So getting a PhD into theory didn't sound fun  anymore. And, um, my husband actually was like, what about seminary? Like you love theology, and if  you look at my library shelves, it's all interesting. Theology and soul stuff and spiritual books. And so,  um, I googled seminaries. I thought it was a Catholic thing, a 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:15): 

Seminary <laugh>. Right. I know. I associate that with it too, when I was researching you and I actually  grew up Catholic. Yes. So I'm like, I should know, you 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:07:21): 

Know? Exactly. I, I was, so, I Googled it, and St. Paul School of Theology is a Methodist seminary in  Kansas City at the time, it was at 23rd in Van Brunt downtown. And they had this beautiful campus that  the Guadalupe Center now has that 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:33): 

Is 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:07:34): 

Just in great hands and doing awesome things, awesome work still. But St. Paul, um, offered this like  open house mm-hmm <affirmative>. And it was like in three days after I Googled it. So, you know, pal  times were Yes. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So, and it happened to be our wedding anniversary <laugh>.  Oh my gosh. Like, Rob, how do you feel about spending our anniversary at an open seminary open  house? He's like, let's do it. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:07:55): 

Perfectly romantic. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:07:56): 

So yeah. So I sat in on a class and absolutely loved it and thought and had that feeling of like, I'm  supposed to do this. I don't know what I'm supposed to do with it, but I'm supposed to get this education.  And so I started with a Master's in Theology, which is a three year program at St. Paul. Absolutely loved  it, loved my professors, loved my classmates, and just loved excuses to read this stuff and have to write  papers and yeah. So 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:19): 

How did you, did you just have the confidence to take the leap to leave like the corporate world Yeah.  And go do school? Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:08:25): 

For 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:25): 

Three years. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:08:26): 

I mean, yeah. It's kind of crazy when I look back on it.

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:08:27): 

Sure. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:08:28): 

Um, but yes. But maybe just a calling. It was such a pull. Yeah. It was such a, you know, like a must do.  Yeah. Um, and so I, you know, started and then it just kept, kept getting more confirmed that this is where  I'm supposed to be and this is what I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah. So then I stayed an extra year  because I, I wasn't sure what I wanted to do with it mm-hmm <affirmative>. And that allows you to be a  Methodist pastor, that kind of extra, it's called a divinity degree. And so I completed that. And, um, 

(00:08:56): 

In the scope of seminary, I was asked to write a paper and preach on the unconditional love and of God.  And I was like, and no pressure. Yeah. No pressure. And in my own crisis, existential crisis, I was like, it  feels conditional. I think I've lived my whole life pretty conditional. Yeah. Like, if people like me, then  I'm doing a good job. If I'm making money, then I'm doing a good job. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. You  know, and so it just brought up all this stuff in me of like, wait, I live very conditionally. I love grossly  very conditionally. You know, it was just undoing a lot of stuff in me of like, wait, this is not who I  wanna be and how I wanna live. Wow. And so that night, I think it was an all-nighter, because I did this  deep dive into research on conditional love and found the, uh, re clinical research at the University of  Texas in Austin. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:09:47): 

And 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:09:47): 

Harvard, um, led by Kristen Effin, Austin and Chris Germer and at Harvard that have studied now over  25 years of clinical data on the power of being kind to yourself. Oh my gosh. And how much more  motivating that is sustainable, how people that are successful are truly supporting themselves, not beating  the shit out of themselves. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And that was a foreign language to me. I would've  argued No, being hard on myself is my secret sauce. That's why I've been successful, because I'm critical  and I get better. And 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:17): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:10:17): 

It's 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:17): 

Not necessarily a generational thing. I don't know. Is that like a, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:10:20): 

Maybe, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:10:21): 

Maybe. I don't know. Because I, it completely resonates with me. Yes. Some conditional thing. Exactly.  Like a lot of people would be like, yep. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. That's what I'm supposed to do.

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Ginger Rothhaas (00:10:29): 

I know. Yeah, I know. And are my parents pleased with me? Right. Are my teachers pleased with me?  Are my coaches pleased with me? Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Then okay, I'm doing a good job. Right. So  yeah. There's probably a generational aspect to that. Yeah. Um, so I found all this research and thought,  what if I was kind to myself? Uh, what would that be like? So <laugh>, what would that be like? So I did  that sermon on Yeah. Conditional love versus unconditional love. And one of my, um, favorite  professors, Israel Cum du uh, came up to me afterwards and he said, this, this is your calling, teach this.  And, uh, yeah. I was standing there like, okay, I'll teach this. And so that really became a pivotal moment  where I wrote the rest of my papers on self-compassion and how that's actually kind of seeing the divine  within and mm-hmm <affirmative>. Understanding God in a deeper way and unpacked all of that. And  then in that I had this decision at graduation of what do I wanna do with this education? 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:11:28): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:11:29): 

And I had to do a pastoral co counseling internship. I picked pastoral counseling as my internship in  seminary. And I found that I loved counseling. I loved one-on-ones with people. Yeah. And at the root of  so many of my conversations was self-worth issues. Either I can't forgive myself, or I'm just disgusted  with myself, or I've made really bad decisions and that's why I'm in this lot in life. And I kept hearing  these themes of self worth, lack of self 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:11:56): 

Worth. Yeah. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:11:58): 

So that all kind of came together to form compassion fix mm-hmm <affirmative>. Which was, I wanna go  to outside of a church because, um, churches have these resources. So where are the people that don't  have these resources and who are they talking to? Mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:13): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:12:13): 

And so I met with five of my friends that were therapists in Kansas City and said, here's my, here's my  idea. And they were like, awesome. 'cause I've got somebody right now I wanna send you that's struggling  with forgiveness, because they grew up very religious mm-hmm <affirmative>. And can't let go of that,  but they don't want nothing to do with the church. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, because the church hurt  them. Yeah. And so I got this, I started in coffee shops, but then we, the people would end up crying. And  so I'm like, okay, I need a private space. <laugh> migrate over here. Yeah. So I found this little space  above Bella Napoli in Brookside. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:43): 

Aw. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:12:43): 

Oh, it's

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:12:44): 

A shout out to Bella Napoli. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:12:45): 

Oh my gosh. Restaurant. Love it. Yes. Thank you. 30 pounds later. Yeah. Bella Napoli, um, for working  above that restaurant, but it was a fantastic little office, and I started seeing people one-on-one. Mm-hmm.  And that was compassion fix. Um, and I'm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:01): 

Assuming that was a lot of word of mouth people 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:13:02): 

Finding 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:02): 

You. Yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:13:03): 

All word of mouth. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, we're just now starting to do marketing like 10 years later. Yeah.  Um, because it has just been word of mouth through therapists and through, um, people referring each  other. Yeah. But the idea was if we could learn self-compassion mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:18): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:13:18): 

Um, we actually are more compassionate people in the world. And so the compassion fix idea was a dose  of self-compassion makes you a more compassionate person. And so it's not fixing something, it was  more like a drug fix. Like a Yeah, like a dose. Yeah. Um, and the idea was if I can learn to be  compassionate with myself, I'm way more compassionate with other humans, and if I can learn to be more  compassionate with other humans, I'm way more compassionate with myself. Right. And, and 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:43): 

That multiplier effect. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:13:44): 

Exactly. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:44): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:13:45): 

Exactly. So that's how it was born. Yeah. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:47):

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That's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:13:48): 

The backstory there. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:13:49): 

So that was about 10 years ago. Yep. 10 years ago. So going back to like your earlier years Yeah. Did  you, because I don't think a lot of people did. Yeah. Did you ever have any exposure to therapy? Did you  or counseling or anything? I would've loved it. Yeah. <laugh>, I know I would've loved it. I mean, now  it's like my, our kids are, um, eight and 11. Yes. And they both have been to a therapist. Yes. I know. It's  no-brainer. It's so much, you're such a good mom to do that open. Yep. But of course, you know, no, we  didn't do that, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:14:13): 

You know, decades ago. No, our generation didn't do that. It would've been so good for me. I was an only  child, so I didn't even have a sibling to process with. And, you know, and just all those things that you  think I'm the problem. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Something's wrong with me. Um, and of course, my  parents were telling me, you're not the problem and you're amazing. Yeah. But I, you don't soak it up  from parents the way you do from another adult. And so I just want every teenager and child on the planet  to have an adult advocate other than their family members. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:40): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:14:41): 

Um, a 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:14:41): 

Kind of external 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:14:42): 

Yes. An individual external person. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Reminding you of all of this stuff. Yeah.  And, and one of the things that, um, I noticed with Compassion Fix is the therapy world was getting so  busy and inundated, and there were six month waits to get in. Yeah. And, um, so I would tell my therapist  friends, if you have somebody that isn't struggling with mental illness but needs somebody to talk to mm hmm <affirmative>. That's where I could fill the gap a little bit. Okay. Because I'm not trained as a  therapist mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, but, you know, so I don't diag we don't diagnose anything at  Compassion Fix. Okay. We are, we are not working with, um, deep, deep mental illness. We are working  with, being human is hard and I don't know who to talk to about it. Yes. But I want a trained professional.  Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah. So that's kind of where we fill the gap in the mental health world. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:27): 

So let's talk about your team. Yes. A little bit. Yeah. So you've got a team of how many people Yeah.  Therapists. Yeah. And what are the different areas that maybe are more common? Yeah. That people are  coming in, um, you know, the needs that they have or Yep. What they're looking to connect on. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:15:41):

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Good. Yes. We, so we have a team of 10. We have therapists, licensed therapists, as well as certified  coaches. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:15:47): 

Okay. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:15:47): 

Um, and it runs a gamut. I made a list because I always blank on something. Sure. <laugh>. Um, so like  general life advice, uh, mindset work, trauma, uh, grief. Um, teen, teen therapy. Yeah. We do a lot of that.  I love working with teenagers and so does Kim Brown, our, uh, teen, teen therapist. Um, and she's a  licensed therapist. Um, parent coaching, how do I help my teen? So many times we find the parents are  actually the ones that need the coaching. Um, yeah. No kidding. Yes. And so 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:16:16): 

We do, I'll probably be in there soon, <laugh>. We do a lot of that. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:16:18): 

Um, and we have a nutrition coach, Megan Anderson, who connected us. She does nutrition and wellness  and physical health. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:16:25): 

She's amazing. I mean, another thing that we didn't know decades ago Yes. The importance of nutrition  and what we're eating and what it's doing to our overall health. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:16:32): 

Mental 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:16:32): 

And emotional too. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:16:32): 

So, yes. She's so good at like, uh, you know, we have a client that had her gallbladder removed and  Megan's helping her make adjustments. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. You know, so it's the, you don't even  realize, like you can only go to Instagram and, you know, chat GPT so much, and then you need a  nuanced human Yeah. To help you figure out some of this stuff. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:16:48): 

Yeah. And to that point, I've had conversations already with people who've been in here talking about  mm-hmm <affirmative>. The misinformation that we all know is out there on social media. Exactly. You  know, and to be really careful about the advice that, um, you're getting real quickly Yes. Thinking it's, it's  the right 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:17:01): 

Exactly. Answer. So 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:02):

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It's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:17:02): 

Hard right now. Yeah. We have faith, uh, coaches, um, we have relationships. I see couples. Um, and then  finding purpose, you know, what am I supposed to do with my life? Gosh, that's huge. That's a huge piece  of work. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So Yeah. That's kind of a flyover of the work we do. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:16): 

Well, I love it. Um, 'cause I was doing research. Being human is hard. We're here to help. Yeah. I mean, it  is a no-brainer that that is something that I think everybody could benefit from. Yeah. Um, and I'm  assuming you can do one session. Yes. You can session you do ongoing. Exactly. Whatever the case may  be. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:17:30): 

We have some programs. We have a new program called Reset You, which is, we work with three people  on our team based on what you wanna work on to just do a reset. And we work as a collaborative team  Yeah. To customize a program for you. Um, we have Empower You, which is a team, uh, um, program  for teenagers. Yeah. That, who am I, what do I value? How do I make decisions? Who are my support  people who has my back? 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:17:52): 

Yeah. I wanna dive into that a little bit more. 'cause I've got a pre-teen mm-hmm <affirmative>. And  many teens out there in this very difficult world. Yeah. Um, what, um, how, like, what are some of the  common things, I think to build on what you just said that they're coming in for and what are some kind  of overarching ways that you're sort of guiding them or common things that you're seeing? Yeah. Maybe  in Kansas City with kids. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:18:12): 

Yeah. An easy on-ramp for parents to talk to their teen about coaching is, um, to build confidence. You  know, everyone wants more confidence. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So kind of that's how we get in the  door sometimes with teenagers is, um, you want more confidence when you have to give a presentation at  school. You want more confidence on the football field or on the soccer field. Um, but within, what we  find once we're in conversations with them is there's so much more. And there's this foundation of self  doubt in so many teenagers today. It is impossible to be a teenager right now. I don't know how they're all  surviving, because 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:18:44): 

I don't either, but I even think of myself and I'm like, what is it that we all struggle with confidence? And  I know it's different now with social media than it was when we were growing up mm-hmm  <affirmative>. But like, what is it that is going on that there's that disconnect there or that, you know, we  as parents or guardians or teachers can be doing? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:19:02): 

I think there's so much comparison. Yeah. So much comparison. And I, I think that it's in their hands  constantly that what somebody else is doing. And, and then parents also what other kids are doing. And  so why isn't my kid doing that? And Yep. You know, and we just, I mean, the conversation I've had a lot 

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lately with moms especially, is, um, let them be who they are, not who you want them to be. Mm-hmm  <affirmative>. And, you know, huge. That is huge. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:19:27): 

Back to what you were saying earlier. Yeah. It's that conditioning of I need to be exactly the best. I need  to grow up. I need to be a doctor, need to, I need to grow up and be wealthy, or whatever these things are  that a lot of us are, you know, or teens are facing. That's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:19:41): 

Right. Mindy. It's so much pressure. The pressure on teenagers right now is mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:19:44): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:19:44): 

And so that's why I think they're just numbing on their phones, you know? Yeah. They just wanna escape.  That's their escape. Yeah. That's their escape. But it leads to comparison and not enoughness and Yeah.  That inner critic, um, you know, we work a lot with teenagers on how do you talk to yourself. Yeah. Um,  are you, are you criticizing yourself? Are you building yourself up? Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And we  have lots of mo different models, like the roommates in your head, you know, which one are you listening  to? Okay. Yeah. Um, 'cause there's always, you know, we've all lived with that difficult person Yeah.  <laugh>. So like, you live with that difficult person all the time, and they're like, why didn't you do this?  And why didn't you do that? And you should have done this. Um, there's also an encourager in there. I  had my encourager like locked in the basement of the house. <laugh> Yeah. <laugh> of me. And I didn't  listen to her very much, but I moved her upstairs and said, I need to hear you more. Yeah. Um, and you  know, so we do, we do a lot of models like that with kids on mm-hmm <affirmative>. How they talk to  themselves, who are their, who are their true people, um, why do they want to hotwire these toxic  friendships and be in that group? Yeah. You know, why, what's, what's attractive about that group to you  and what is it you're longing for? And so, so a lot of 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:20:48): 

Talk therapy. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:20:49): 

A lot of talk therapy. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:20:50): 

Right. And then you said that you've got Yep. Um, like exercises or things that you'll give them, which  we'll clearly get into with the book that you offered. Yes, yes. I'm a 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:20:57): 

Big tool person. Yeah. Um, 'cause I feel like in my journey I could read a book and maybe find ideas and  inspiration, but I always wanted the how, how do I do it? Yeah. So I wrote a book of how 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:07):

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Just skip Right. To let's make this do something for me. Exactly. Yes. Well, let's talk about the book then.  Yeah. Yeah. So, which, we'll, we'll get this when we get out on social, but we're gonna do a giveaway for  some people to get the book. But first of all, this thing is massive. So props to you for your insight,  putting this together. I know. Oh my gosh. Um, but tell us about how it came to be, what is within Yep.  And, um, yeah, just overall kind of a division there. So 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:21:33): 

It's, it's like two pages at a time. There's lots of blank space in this big book 'cause it's intimidating, but  Okay. They are little, little practices, 150 little practices, and they're organized in different topics. Like,  quiet your brain, befriend yourself, tap into courage, make thoughtful decisions, feel better quick, get  unstuck. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:51): 

Yeah. Um, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:21:52): 

Foster relationships. So how 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:54): 

To be, is it almost like a daily devotional, like every day? It can't, some people 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:21:56): 

Use it that way. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:21:57): 

Yeah. Yeah. It's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:21:58): 

Really cool. I have some people that wake up in the morning and just flip to one. Some are working their  way through it with coffee. Yeah. Um, the, at the end of everyone, there's a few things to try. Okay. You  know, try this. And sometimes it's a conversation with somebody. Sometimes it's go on a walk and think  about this. Sometimes it's make a list Yeah. Or a journal. Um, but there are things to apply immediately.  

So it's been fun to see how people use it in different ways. But yeah, I just, I really wanted it, it was an act  of self-love for me to write down everything I have learned and practice myself to get here. And then I  wanted it for my kids, and then I wanted it for my clients. Yeah. And so, you know, anybody that's  written a book knows it's so hard to cross the finish line. But that was kind of the motivation of like, if I  die tomorrow, at least there's something to help somebody <laugh>. Yeah. Um, I'm leaving something to  help my kids. And, um, so yeah. It's just, it's become a, a really cool toolkit Yeah. That the whole practice  uses. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:22:52): 

I'm gonna grab it. Yeah. Um, I had Emily boarder on from Eeb and Co Yes. Who has built her business  here, and she also authored a book. How, just, uh, outta curiosity for people who are interested in writing  and publishing a book. Yes. Can you tell us kind of how you went through Yeah. That process? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:23:08):

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Yeah. So I decided to self-publish on Amazon. Um, you know, I, I stuck a toe in the publishing world. I  went to a Hay House workshop and a couple other writer workshops with publishing companies. And I  got so discouraged that we had to have 10,000 followers on three platforms before we consider publishing  you. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:23:27): 

Oh gosh. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:23:27): 

And it, I was just like, I wanna get something out in the world. I don't really know 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:23:31): 

If 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:23:31): 

I wanna jump through all these hoops. I'm writing a book right now on spirituality, and I would love a  publisher for that one, just because I need Okay. I need more, uh, fact checking and support on that one.  Oh, sure. <laugh>. Um, and a publisher behind me would be great. So I'm gonna try revisiting the  traditional publishing world again, but it is so easy to self-publish on Amazon. Yeah. You upload a PDF  basically. Okay. So you need an editor, a proofreader mm-hmm <affirmative>. A book layout person.  Um, so I had this awesome team that helped me do all of this, and they had their specialties. Um, but you  just, you have to sit in the chair and write first <laugh>, gotta do the work. Yes. That's the writing's the  hard part. So, to make me do this, um, I started a Tuesday email that I would do one practice every  Tuesday, and it started with a very small distribution list. Okay. And that grew as people were forwarding  it, but that held me accountable for sitting in the chair and writing. So every Monday night Perfect. Mm hmm <affirmative>. My family could tell you <laugh>, every Monday night, mom's a little panicked  because she's gotta get an email done. But that turned into this. Um, and I have hundreds more since I  published this in, in the end of 23. Um, I'm still doing it every Tuesday morning a newsletter goes out 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:43): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:24:44): 

With another tip, which I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:45): 

Subscribe 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:24:45): 

To. Yeah. Yep. So that's, if you wanna write a book, do something small like that to take baby steps to  build your content. Okay. Um, but the accountability of that Tuesday morning email is the reason there's a  book. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:24:58): 

And it seems like people who, when you write your first book mm-hmm <affirmative>. You get like the  itch to do another one. Does it become, I,

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Ginger Rothhaas (00:25:06): 

It's now, now I have the itch three years later, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:09): 

But right after 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:25:10): 

<laugh> 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:10): 

You probably were like, I'm exhausted. Never 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:25:11): 

Again. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:12): 

<laugh> deep breath. Yeah. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:25:13): 

So it has come back. Yeah. It has come back and I'm writing now on world religions and, um, and that, so  I'm, I've got the urge again, but it took three years of recess. Right. Um, after finishing this one. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:25:25): 

Okay. So I did, I I wanted to ask, um, the shared human experience found in our world religion. Yeah. So,  um, and before you had come in Yeah. I asked, I wanted to ask like the faith question. Yeah. You know,  how does faith play a role in what you do, what your team does? Yeah. What we're gonna talk about now  Yeah. About world religion, like how do we speak to people who are interested in connecting with you  guys that are coming from all different backgrounds and faiths. Like how does that play a part? Oh, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:25:51): 

It's so that, that's kind of why I wanted to start this deep dive into 10 world religions and what do the,  what do they each teach about love and compassion. Yeah. And at the foundation of every religion is  love, really. It's, it's humans trying to understand how to be human and help other people be human's.  How religions start. Yeah. Um, and then humans corrupt it and make it confusing. Right. <laugh>. But it  

starts, sadly <laugh>. It starts with love and compassion and kindness, loving kindness, and, and how do  we, you know, be good people in the world? That's really the foundation of all these religions I've studied.  Um, and I think that, you know, it starts with kind of your belief in what is the human soul? What is the  human spirit? Those are all synonyms. Um, but are we made of love? And if so, then here's how to live  into that. 

(00:26:45): 

Yeah. And what I have found is really, um, all religions have this original goodness of you are a loving  essence. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. You are a soul made of love. Now, some different, especially Christian  denominations have kind of skewed that into original sin. And, but, but the ancients all said, you were  made of love mm-hmm <affirmative>. And so if you go back to that, that my soul is a loving essence  mm-hmm <affirmative>. And when I behave badly, I've just forgotten that I'm actually made of love.  Yeah. Um, and then if I return to that love, things go much more smoothly for me as a human. Yeah. And 

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so, even in the hardships, finding the love, even in the sadness, finding the love, even in the anger, finding  the love. Yeah. And so most difficult, no doubt. Exactly. Exactly. So what kind of spurred this project  was I was teaching a different Christian mystic every month, a compassion fix. And I was doing the  research on Christian mystics, and Pierre te Dardan is from France, and he was a Jesuit priest, but also a  geologist. So he taught at the intersection of science and religion. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:49): 

Ooh, interesting. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:27:50): 

I know. He's 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:51): 

So cool. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:27:51): 

What 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:52): 

Does Christian mystic mean exactly? Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:27:54): 

So they were people, mostly Catholics. Okay. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:27:56): 

Who 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:27:56): 

Felt like we are missing the point. You're overthinking everything. Ah, you are, you're not having a  personal experience with God. Okay. So that's kind of the, the root of mysticism is have a personal  relationship with God, which, if you think about when in a lot of them were in Europe in the 17, 18  

hundreds. And so everything was an intercessory. I couldn't just go directly to God. I had to go to the  priest or through a saint. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:19): 

Ah, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:28:20): 

So the Christian mystics were on the side. Often many were nuns and monks, but they were like, this,  we're missing the personal experience with God. We're talking to humans instead of talking to God. So  they were people who started writing about their experiences with God. And, um, ARD was in France and  his work really stuck with me. And here was the quote, you are not a human being seeking a spiritual  experience. You are a spiritual being, having a human experience. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And I was  like, yes, that's the true essence. We're all souls having a human experience. Yes. And this human  experience is hard <laugh>, especially in

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:28:59): 

2026. Understatement. Yeah. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:29:01): 

And so we're all on the planet right now in a really tough human experience. Yeah. Wherever you are.  Um, but if you come back to my essence is love, and if we all tapped back into that mm-hmm  <affirmative>. Then I think we could have this collective awakening. I think some of the ugliness right  now is this awakening. It's it's gotta get ugly before we wake up. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we are, and the  power of the people and you know, the, the love will prevail. I have to trust that. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:29:26): 

So it seems easy to say, like, we've gotta tap back into love. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:29:30): 

I know. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:29:31): 

But I think that's pretty difficult. Like, how do you speak to that? How do you, how do you expand on  that? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:29:35): 

Yes. It's so hard, Mindy, because it seems passive and it seems soft and it seems fluffy when there's, when  hate is so ugly and forceful. Yeah. And aggressive. Um, but I look at the Buddhist monks that just walked  2300 miles. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:29:49): 

Okay. I didn't, yes. Somehow I didn't hear about that. I know. And when I was preparing for this episode,  I saw your blog post Yes. That your friend went. Yes. She went to visit. And, um, I haven't even had the  time to go look up like the videos of it, but I was so fascinated with exactly the story. So tell that. Yeah.  Continue on that. So 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:30:04): 

There're a good example right now of how love can be active. Okay. Love doesn't have to be passive.  Yeah. But love is nonviolent. And so these monks set out from Fort Worth, Texas to DC and they just  peacefully walked 2300 miles and had 6 million people come follow them and watch them and hear their  stories. And they stopped and talked to people and the crowd's gathered and mm-hmm <affirmative>.  You know, and so that is showing us love isn't just sit quietly. Love is still doing something. Yeah. Um,  but it's hard. And as somebody who tries to give people hope as a profession, <laugh> 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:36): 

Yeah. It's hard. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:30:38): 

Because 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:30:38):

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They're all like, you've gotta be challenged more than most. Yes. And because you gotta probably keep it  together. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:30:42): 

And you had your day too. Yes. And they looking to me like, you've been saying this a long time, ginger,  and it's not turning <laugh>, like, hang on, it's turning. Yeah. Um, but we are in the same like, planetary  pattern as we were in the Civil War and the French Revolution. And so there's a, there is bigger stuff  happening that's making us feel so uncomfortable right now mm-hmm <affirmative>. And I think that  that gives me hope in the sense of, we've been here before as a, as a globe. Yeah. We've been through, uh,  humanitarian crisis over and over and over again. Right. Um, and look at how we evolved towards love  on the other side of that. And so, you know, I I think we're just in one of those. Yeah, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:18): 

That's fair. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:31:19): 

But it's hard to, everyone has to hold onto their individual hope. Mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:23): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:31:23): 

We can't all lose hope at the same time. <laugh>. That 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:25): 

Would be scary. That 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:31:26): 

Would be 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:26): 

Scary. That would be 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:31:27): 

Ugly. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:27): 

Yeah. So, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:31:27): 

Hang on. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:31:28): 

Okay. So the, so 10 world religions. Yeah. Can you name what those are? Yeah. What does that look  like? And what are you doing with the information with all 10 of them?

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Ginger Rothhaas (00:31:36): 

Yep. Okay. So I started with indigenous pe I'm going in like chronic chronological order in my research.  Okay. So indigenous people, native American spirituality. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Then Hinduism. Um,  then, uh, Judaism, then Taoism, um, then Jainism, um, which is similar to Hinduism. And then let's see  what Buddhism mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, Islam or Christianity, Islam, uh, Sikhism and Bahai Faith.  Um, okay. I know, I know. So I'm so fascinated with this. About 80% through the research. Um, village  Presbyterian has been kind enough to let me teach on each one every month. Okay. So we have, we, our  room has increased in size. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:32:17): 

Yeah, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:32:18): 

I bet People are coming. And so the first Wednesday of every month at 10 o'clock, I do another one of  those and that's helping me build this content for the book I wanna write. Okay. But basically what I'm  trying to show us is we're, we are all, you know, there's different phrases for this, but it's different  hallways leading to the same room. Yeah. Or it's different lanterns, same light. Yeah. And so I just  wanted to prove that to myself, but with this research project Yeah. And then be able to have that  educated conversation with people Yeah. Of we're actually all saying the same things, different  languages, different cultures, different spins on it, different ways of telling the story. However, the root of  everything is truly love and compassion. And that has proven out. Um, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:33:00): 

I think it's so interesting. Like I said, I grew up Catholic and I think a lot of people know there's a lot of  Catholic guilt that you experience in your life. Right. Back to what you said about people who are seeking  your team's help. Mm-hmm. Because they, they feel, um, all these emotions, big emotions around like  religion, growing up with it, what it did, you know, what it did to them, things like that. Mm-hmm  <affirmative>. Um, but I do find it really interesting, even within Christianity that it's like, well, first of  all, like Catholicism, people are like, oh, you're, you're Catholic, you're not Christian. No. Right. It's  actually Christian, which I always find really interesting. I know. Um, and then too that, you know, and  maybe this is just me speaking aloud, like if I grew up Catholic, but I don't go to the Catholic church, then  mm-hmm <affirmative>. Okay. That's, that's a sin. Find it not practicing judgment. Even within  Christianity, it can be really challenging. Oh my gosh. Yes. Um, and then yeah, ultimately how all these, I  mean, we know of course religion, politics, that those are the two biggest things. Yeah. But like 

(00:33:54): 

Yeah. Like going against each other when we're all literally human beings I know. That are struggling the  same way. Exactly. And needing the same thing. Exactly. Which love and compassion. That's right. And  companionship. Right? Yes. So, yeah. This will be fun to read. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:34:07): 

I think that's really 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:34:08): 

Enlightening. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:34:09):

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So important. The political divide you just described is the way you said it is so beautiful. We all actually  do want the same things. We want kids to have food. I know. Crazy. We want people to have homes. We  want, we want money in our savings accounts. We actually all want the same things. We go about it in  different ways. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. But if we could come back to those root desires, we're all afraid.  Yeah. None of us wanna die. None of us wanna be sick. Yep. None of us wanna be left behind. Yeah.  You know? So if we could go back to the core of being human and connect on that level mm-hmm  <affirmative>. And then have a good civil conversation about, you think we should approach it that way.  Yeah. I actually think we should approach it this way. Yeah. Um, that's a democracy and that's, that was a  beautiful thing when it works. Um, so I think that's, you know, I don't know. That's why I want a  publisher to help me with this book because it is a little bit of a landmine <laugh>. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:00): 

No, but I think that's incredible and I can't wait to read it because I'm really fascinated with it. And I do  think, um, you know, as a Christian I find a lot of value in things like that. I'll read about Buddhism Yes.  And what it teaches. Yes. And how enlightening that is, you know. Oh my gosh. Exactly. Um, and I think  so much of it can just benefit us in so many ways. Um, okay. So I wanted to read another thing that you  put together or that you quoted. Um, the world needs You, we need your unique soul. Yeah. Your genes  experiences, education, circumstances, dreams, talents, gifts and ideas are what we have all been waiting  for. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:35:31): 

Oh, I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:32): 

Love that. That is, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:35:32): 

I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:35:32): 

Didn't know I wrote that <laugh>, somebody wrote it. I did write it. I think it was you, it like me. And I  mean, it really stood out to me. Yeah. And I'm sure you have many more that I could pull from all of the,  I, you know, what you've created. But I just thought that was like Yeah, that's very profound. And I  wanted you to kind of expand on how you came to that, how you talk to your mm-hmm <affirmative>.  You and your team talk to um, you know, the individuals that come in. Because I do think that goes back  to the whole self-worth Yes. Self-love. And we're forgetting that we each have something 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:36:03): 

Unique to offer you. I love that statement. 'cause it really sums up the work that we do and the belief that  we have of every human is so, so worthy and so unique. Yeah. And such a cool story. You know, that's  what I love about my job. Me too. Yes, exactly. We both get to meet the coolest humans and hear their  stories. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And um, and that is valuing everybody's, everybody has something to  teach me. Everybody has something to offer me. Nobody is broken. Yep. Um, nothing is broken about  you. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. It is, uh, it's, it's, you know, my job is just help you find a way forward to  the life you wanna live. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, but it's glorious and amazing and you are worthy  and deserve it. Yeah. So, yeah. That, that really is the foundation of the work of everyone on our team.  And

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:36:50): 

I think it's tough too, right? Like I am in my mid forties and going through my, you know, a different  chapter Yeah. Of exploring what my meaning is. Yes. My purpose is. Right. Totally. 'cause I lived in the  corporate world forever up until this, and then got to the point where I was like, no. Yes. More I wanna  get into this 'cause I wanna hear people's stories and this is what, um, you know, gives me a lot of  fulfillment and joy and you get the opportunity to share. Yeah. You know, everything. So I love that  when people are, um, struggling. So you said you're not technically, you're not looking for the people that  are like dealing with maybe the heaviest Exactly. Or of mental illness, darkest mental illness. That's right.  Um, go back to when somebody is struggling Yeah. Like who those people might be Yeah. And how they  get in touch with you guys. Yes. Yes. And what that process looks like when they come to Compassion  Fix. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:37:39): 

So we refer be, we don't do deep mental health because we're not trained in that. A couple of our people  are licensed therapists, but you deserve to be with a trauma. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. A deep trauma  specialist, a somebody who specializes in, you know, what your brain is struggling with at the moment.  Yeah. So we refer on to, and I have a beautiful, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:37:58): 

Beautiful list. I think you probably, yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:38:00): 

I have a beautiful list of trusted people in Kansas City, um, for every specialty. And it continues to grow,  but what, where we kind of fill the gap is, um, life was going great and then the wheels came off <laugh>. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:38:12): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:38:12): 

And I don't know how to get 'em back on. Yeah. 

(00:38:14): 

Or I'm stuck or I feel purposeless or I have just, I had a loss, a job loss, a person. I lost a person, I had a  breakup mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, I just need to figure out a way to get back on track. That's a lot of  our work. Yep. Um, a lot of our work is kind of reset. Um, one of our practitioners calls it a life edit.  Okay. You know, of like, where is, where are things not working? Yeah. And then how do we get back on  that mm-hmm <affirmative>. And what I have found with my clients is so much of that is an old story  that I've been telling myself that I can't have it. I don't deserve it. I haven't earned it. Yeah. Um, you  know, I made a bad decision a long time ago and that got me that, that was my chance mm-hmm  <affirmative>. 

(00:38:56): 

And so I'll never have it mm-hmm <affirmative>. So I look at kind of what's the story underneath this  struggle? And we heal that story or tell, learn to tell it differently. And then it's neural programming  really. It's, yeah. I have to retell that story every day because I've told the old one every day. Yeah. And I  have a neural pathway formed that says, you know, I'll never have what I want. Yeah. And we gotta  switch that to I can create what I want. Yeah. Um, but that takes repetition and consistency. And so there's  some brain training. I love, I geek out on neuroscience because I really think we haven't trained humans  how to use their brain. I didn't know how to use a brain.

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:31): 

Seriously. Good point. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:39:33): 

Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:39:33): 

So 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:39:34): 

I remember I got a car at the some time when I was studying neuroscience and they sat down and  explained the climate system to me and I was like, I'm learning more about the climate system of this car  than I anyone taught me about my brain. Right. Right. And, um, I wanna know how this works. Yeah.  Um, so that really kind of, I always, all of us on my team weave neuroscience into our work. Mm-hmm  <affirmative>. You've gotta understand how your brain works, your fear center, your logic and reason,  your emotions Yeah. Your memories, all of that 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:03): 

So complex. Yeah. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:40:04): 

And how to manage it. It's brain 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:05): 

Management. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:40:06): 

Really, life is brain management. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:08): 

No kidding. Yeah. Well, it's funny that you said that. Um, and I'm thinking about this book and like kind  of having that daily or however you go about like the to do the task that you can do because I think, um,  it's no secret, I love podcasts. I listen to them. I love learning, absorbing. And one thing that's really come  to light for me, which speaks to what you're talking about, is that creating a pattern mm-hmm  <affirmative>. And one of the best things that you can do is wake up every day and express gratitude. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:40:34): 

Yes. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:35): 

And it can set the tone for your day. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:40:37): 

Yes.

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:40:37): 

But it's easy to forget to do that tomorrow. Yes. And so I'm working on that myself to just express  gratitude, you know, if I'm speaking to myself, if I'm talking to my family about it. Yes. Um, because I  think that that is a huge thing that our brain can forget to do. Exactly. But is so instrumental in how our  days can play out. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:40:53): 

Yeah. Two things on that. You're so right. That is such a powerful practice mm-hmm <affirmative>. And  really changes everything. Um, one is look for the good, you know? Yeah. Which is a gratitude practice.  Like look for the good because we are, we are hardwired to look for the bad because it keeps us safe. So  our brain defense 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:41:08): 

Mechanism 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:41:09): 

Totally. Exactly. Our brain is doing its job to keep me safe by saying there are threats all around gender.  Be careful. Right, right. Um, but I have to nuance that and look for the good or else I just see bad. Um, so  that piece of gratitude is super important. The other one, I just sent out this email this morning on make a  list of what you love mm-hmm <affirmative>. That will snap you right back into gratitude faster than  anything. Yeah. Because sometimes when I am in the weeds and like, ugh, life is hard and heavy and I'm  dredging through and nothing's going my way. Um, gratitude seems hard sometimes It's, or it seems  fabricated almost mm-hmm <affirmative>. And not authentic. But I will go back to what do I love and  that will take me right back to gratitude faster. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:41:49): 

Instantaneously Yes. Will have a reaction Yes. Internally, and then that can make its way out into others  around you. Yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:41:55): 

And what I love is a dog on my lap and the sun on my face Yeah. And the laugh of my children. And you  know, it's, it's that stuff that brings you right back into the present moment mm-hmm <affirmative>. And  that's where joy is and gratitude lies and, but we have to kind of help ourselves get there some days. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:10): 

Yeah, yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:42:11): 

Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:12): 

And obviously surrounding yourself with people who can help kind of Yes. Infiltrate that into you as  well. Yes. Um, two things I wanted to know. When someone reaches out to you mm-hmm <affirmative>.  Do they go through kind of a process to do like a consultation Yeah. Or kind of express what they're  going through and then you match them up? Yeah. Is that how it works? Great question. Yes. And then I  was gonna see if you had any, um, maybe more like outstanding stories of what people have come to you  with, how they evolved into a better place.

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Ginger Rothhaas (00:42:38): 

Yeah. Yeah. So yes, to find us, you can go to compassion fix.com mm-hmm. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:42:42): 

You 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:42:42): 

Will see an appointments button right at the top. You can read about our providers and classes and stuff  coming up, but the green appointments button will take you to a free 15 minute call. Okay. And you can  do that with anyone on our team mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, and they will help you find the right  person. Okay. Uh, so yes, and there's an intake form, um, and then we can find the right match for you.  Um, also you can use that 15 minute call to say, I'm looking for something outside of Compassion Fix.  Help me find it. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:11): 

Sure. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:43:11): 

Because we do have so many resources and referral networks. Right. Because we would just want, like  you mentioned before Yeah. We just wanna help people. Yeah. Um, so yes, that free 15 minute call is a  great starting point. Okay. You can also, if you see somebody you wanna work with, you can hop right on  there and book with them too. Oh, okay. Great. You don't have to go through that process. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:43:27): 

Sure. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:43:27): 

Um, so, and yeah, there's so many great stories. Um, I mean, I've had people, I have one woman I can  think of came to me, um, late in life and she was like, I don't wanna die this judgmental. I realize I've, I've  been so judgmental my whole life and I don't wanna die like that. Mm. And so we've, she's just made this  profound change in the last five years towards quieting that part of her brain mm-hmm <affirmative>.  And the, the things that have aligned for her, because she did that work have just blown me away. It's  been profound. We've had 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:00): 

I I don't 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:44:01): 

Doubt it. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:01): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:44:01): 

Yeah. I mean, it, it's just, it's so fun to watch these stories. I've had teenagers that, you know, wouldn't,  didn't have any friends and stayed in the basement all the time and were scared to go social anxiety that 

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they couldn't go to anything. They're now class president and given the graduation speech and, you know,  and they found themselves giving 'em that confidence. Yeah. Yeah. They found themselves and now they  trust themselves and Yeah. Um, so there's yeah. So many stories. We've had people that have come in,  um, and said to me, I'm so angry. I'm just angry about everything. Yeah. You know, and when we 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:33): 

Like, I can't get out of my own way. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:44:34): 

Exactly. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:35): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:44:35): 

And when we work through that, then things align. And that's such a fun phenomenon that I get to watch  that every time somebody either takes a leap of faith or believes in themselves or grows in self love, some  beautiful reward from the universe comes either the person they've thought they never met or the job or  the connection and, and it has yet the 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:44:58): 

Reminder they needed that that is there. Yes. They made them, they 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:01): 

Made a shift. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:01): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:01): 

And then the reward came. Yeah. And it's so fun to watch because now when somebody comes in and  they, I know that's coming for them. Yeah. You know, I can trust that. Yeah. Like something great is  about to happen. We just gotta do some work. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:13): 

Gives me the chills, honestly, even hearing about it. Yeah. Because so many people want and need that. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:17): 

Oh, I know. And there's just 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:18): 

A 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:18): 

Little homework before that happens. Sure. <laugh>. So we gotta do the homework.

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:21): 

Do the homework, yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:22): 

And then 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:22): 

Come for 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:23): 

Free. Yep. And then it shifts. It really 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:24): 

Does 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:24): 

Shift. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:25): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:26): 

I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:45:26): 

Wanted to talk to, um, 'cause I think we've talked a lot about, um, you know, grief and confidence mm hmm. And self-worth. Yeah. What are some of the other ones, like I mentioned, I got connected to you  guys through, I mean, Megan initially to talk about, um, maybe doing a nutrition class, but I ended up  

going to the sound therapy. Yes. What are some other ones that people maybe would not expect to see?  And I meant to bring my computer because I was gonna literally pull up like, and go through the different  classes in there. 'cause you have some really, um, unique and almost surprising workshops. I know. And  how do you guys come up with those to offer them? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:45:57): 

I have the most creative team. Yeah. They are always coming up with great ideas and, you know, and I  just say, run with it. Go. Let's do it. Yeah. Um, so we have one coming up on, um, a medical professional  talking about the hidden drug use in teenagers. Like, you know, what's happening. Not the illicit drugs  necessarily, but what else is happening? And then, um, she's done this class before and I sat in on it and  she teaches how to use an Narcan and I didn't know all this stuff, you know, I didn't know 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:24): 

That 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:46:25): 

I,

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:46:25): 

Yeah. And I'm like, I'm listening to you. I'm like, I will need to know that because it's amazing. I like,  never did I grow up with that. I know, but I know it's a thing now and I haven't done nothing. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:46:33): 

So then as a parent around that yet, so you can come to that class and empower your child or bring your  child to the class, empower them to help the friend at the party. It's not that they're the ones we're worried  about using drugs. It's that good point. You can be equipped to help your friends when this stuff happens.  Mm-hmm <affirmative>. I didn't know that if you, um, you know, so some kids have said I was drinking  or I was using something, so I was scared to help, so I ran away because I didn't wanna get in trouble.  Yeah. You, you can't get, uh, charged with a crime of your own use if you're saving a life. I mean, this  medical professional taught us so many things like that. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:07): 

You would not 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:47:07): 

Have thought that. Yeah. I was like, okay, kids need to know this. Yeah. So we have those kind of  classes. We have the sound bath. Um, Dorothy Tannahill is a of sound vibration healer. Yeah. And she  creates these spaces of healing. The one I think I, yes. I think the one you came to. I had broken my toe in  a fall and I could literally feel the bone vibrating. No way. In my broken toe during the, the sound bath  was, oh my gosh. It was so crazy. It was so cool. Um, and then we do some yoga classes. We do  meditation, we do, um, faith classes. Um, Brooke, one of our teachers does, God, what the fuck? <laugh> 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:42): 

Love it. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:47:42): 

It's such a good class because 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:44): 

Amazing. She's 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:47:44): 

In seminary right now, and she's just, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:46): 

I wanna take that. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:47:47): 

I know. She, it's so good. And the discussions are so good because she's like, I'm a person of faith that has  a lot of shit happen to 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:47:53): 

Her.

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Ginger Rothhaas (00:47:54): 

Yeah. And so she's like, you're not alone. And I think that's what's so beautiful with all of our classes is  you find, you find you're not alone. And that's the power of coming to a class. It's hard to walk into a  space and not know anyone. And it's hard to be, you know, thinking I need help with something,  something. Or feel afraid of that stigma of coming in a room. But when everyone that comes in is like, I  am so glad I came Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:16): 

'cause 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:48:17): 

I thought I was the only one. And then you hear another person share. Yeah. Um, I did one on how our  body, you know, speaks. I have ms I was diagnosed 22 years ago. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:25): 

That's right. We need to touch on that. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:48:27): 

I know. I don't even think 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:28): 

About it 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:48:28): 

That 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:48:28): 

Much. I never, I mean, I, yeah. It's been in remission. I assume it's something that you would visibly see.  And I didn't even cross my mind, people coming in here, but 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:48:35): 

I did a class on that because, and it was such a beautiful room full of people dealing with autoimmune and  chronic illness. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Some were presenting symptoms, some you would never know,  but we talked about how, you know, our body is trying to get a message to us and how to listen to that.  And yeah. We just try to do classes that aren't on the mainstream. Yeah. Aren't stuff you find on  Instagram. Um, but more like meaningful. We bring in a lot of guest speakers. Um, those are powerful  teachers Love that come in and speak. And 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:03): 

Are they all local for the experience? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:49:04): 

Uh, yeah. Mostly. Yeah. Yeah. So far they have been. And you know, if anybody, if you're sitting out  there listening to this and you wanna teach, go, um, we have this beautiful classroom space Yeah. That  you can come teach at Compassion Fix. Yeah. So just schedule a call with me and you can, you can teach  and, uh, share anything you wanna share. That's what it's intended for.

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Mindy Hargesheimer (00:49:23): 

And I'm also, as you're saying, people are scared to, you know, maybe mm-hmm <affirmative>. Scared to  come in 'cause they don't know anybody. I'm like, just listen to Ginger's, um, energy. Yes. And like, calm,  like, and positivity. Like this, what you're exuding is what people can Yeah. Can give them the  confidence to come in because your team is gonna have Yeah. All of that as 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:49:42): 

Well. You're gonna be loved, not judged. There's, that's what we get a lot of. Like, this is such a safe  place. Yeah. I don't feel judged. And that's, that's a, that's intentional. Yeah. Um, we talk about that a lot  as a team, and that's super important to me as a leader, that you never feel judged for what you're going  through. Yeah. Um, and you'll find other people are going through it too. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:01): 

Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Yeah. And, and going back to, um, I think inherently, I say this a lot, but people  wanna be seen and heard. Yes. That's, and, um, if you're not getting that, this is a good place for you to  go. Yes. And you can get that in a variety of ways. So, oh, you 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:14): 

Get it, Mindy, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:15): 

You get the business. So I love Well, that's why I wanted you to come on know, because I'm so fascinated  with all of this and I just inherently know, like Yeah. Um, how many people are going through so much  stuff, grief, you know, and being seen 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:26): 

And heard it's 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:27): 

Crazy and 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:27): 

Understood 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:27): 

Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:28): 

Loved. Yeah. It's, it's 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:30): 

Remarkable. And everybody's families are different. Yes. And circles of friends and neighbors are  different. Yeah. And you just might not be served what you need. Yes. You know? And so that's what you  guys are there for. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:39):

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Exactly. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:39): 

Um, do, sorry, kind of a technical question. Do people pay out of pocket? Yes. Is this an insurance thing? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:46): 

Great question. I'm glad you asked 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:50:48): 

Because 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:50:48): 

We do, it's out of pocket, but we do take HSA Oh and FSA cards. Yeah. And, um, we have robust coding  on our business, so they all go through. Okay, perfect. Uh, for, if you have a, if your business has a  wellness program or if your insurance has an HSA, uh, program, those do work at compassion fits. Okay.  That's good to know. I figured that's probably a question. And we can also give you receipts for  reimbursements. Okay. Um, yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:12): 

Awesome. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:13): 

Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:14): 

Real quickly, back to the workshops. Are those, um, did they change every month? Yes. Is it kind like a  surprise? It gonna happening next month. Okay. Sometimes 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:22): 

I'm surprised. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:23): 

<laugh>. Yeah. I bet <laugh> 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:24): 

We have a big screen with the classes rotating through it in the office, and sometimes I'll stop and be like,  I didn't even know that was happening. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:29): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:29): 

This is so exciting. Um, so yes, our team is always coming up with new ideas. The list changes, we repeat  things that were sold that sold out mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, so, and then let us know, you can do a 

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contact form on our website. Let us know if there's something you want us to rerun or come to, or an idea  you have, and we'll do it. Okay. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:48): 

When you say sold out, what's the capacity generally? Usually 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:50): 

About 25 to 30. Okay. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:53): 

Yeah. And you're in Leewood? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:54): 

Yes. We're in 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:55): 

Leewood 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:51:55): 

At 120 first and state line. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:51:57): 

Okay. Good. Um, yeah, I think the variety is so fun to check out is so fun. And I need to get in there and  too. Oh, another question. Yeah. Do you have kind of a, an age range? Like, do you have like a The  youngest would be yes. Or obviously oldest would be whatever, but Yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:52:11): 

So right now we're, we're 13 and up. Um, okay. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:13): 

Yeah. Good to know. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:52:14): 

Yes. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:14): 

So 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:52:15): 

Teenagers and adults and all ages 13 and up. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:52:19): 

Okay. Yeah. Perfect. Um, one of the questions that I had was, if you could speak to someone who feels  overwhelmed right now Yeah. And burned out and stuck. Like, what's kind of your message or invitation 

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to them Yeah. Right now that you would, like, as we are talking today and they're listening or watching  this, that you would wanna put out there. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:52:38): 

Yeah. I think, um, leave your head and travel down to your heart, and then maybe even to your soul, if  that feels familiar and comfortable to you. But, um, I picture this elevator sometimes, like, I, I have all  this noise in my head and I'm gonna get on this elevator and I'm gonna write it down and I'm gonna get  

off at my heart. And then what's my heart say? Because I love that. Yeah. My, my head is full of chatter  and noise and fear mm-hmm <affirmative>. And has so many ideas of how I should, uh, you know, what  I should be doing. And that it is just overwhelming. So if I get on the elevator and go down, my heart is  peaceful and calm and has all the wisdom and all the answers, I just have to go there and listen. Um, that,  that will never be wrong. What my heart says will never be wrong. So do that. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:53:25): 

I was about to ask you, and that's probably the answer to your question, but I'm like, how do you keep it  together, <laugh>, day to day? It depends on the day. I'm like, oh my gosh, you have this. Like, I have to  do all this <laugh>. Yeah. I mean, because yes, I, I no doubt you're human. You have your moments, I  have my moments. I like what are your, your secret weapons and tactics that you do day to day 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:53:46): 

That help help you? Um, lately it's been meditation. It's been, I've been researching Buddhism a lot, so it's  staying in the present moment. Yeah. That's one of the key teachings of Buddhism is just right here, right  now mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, so I'm working on that a lot. Um, I have an amazing husband who  talks me off of a cliff often. Yeah. Um, I have great kids. My daughter's in New York City, so I love to  hear about her life and what she's doing. Yeah. And that grounds me, my, my son's at K State and, um,  he's, he is like, he finds his peace in nature and he reminds me to go out in nature. So I have this beautiful  support team. My my clients and students that take my classes are so amazing. We just came back from a  week in Florida on a retreat with 12 women, and I'm still coming off of this high of hearing their stories  and thinking I get to do this job. 

(00:54:36): 

This is pretty amazing. Um, and so that's what keeps me grounded. Um, and it's, you know, it's hard  because I want to be able to be a light and I have to, I have to do my own work to not dim. Right. Um, so  it takes a lot of inner work, um, and my own practices, and I have to return to it when I start to get off  track. Yeah. Um, and I've tried to get better at noticing when I'm in alignment and out of alignment mm hmm <affirmative>. What that feels like, and so I can correct it faster. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, but  yeah, I have to, I have to walk the talk <laugh>, imagine or I couldn't do this. I can imagine. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:11): 

Yeah. But I would imagine you're doing it far better than many of us, so I'm 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:55:15): 

Trying to stay on track. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:55:16): 

<laugh>. Yeah. Um, do you have any other words of wisdom for people who are, might be at a similar  chapter where they're thinking about leaving their job behind? Yeah. And, um, doing something  completely new or maybe just literally want to become an entrepreneur. Yeah. Um, kind of the business 

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side of things. Yeah. And I'm sure you're probably accessible if somebody wanted to connect with you  and your story, but 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:55:38): 

Yes. I would love to talk with them. I love those kinds of conversations. Um, I think there's, it's kind of  this intersection when I was thinking about finding my own purpose and I, I tried so many different things  and it came down to this kind of intersection of, um, what lights me up. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. You  know, what am I, what do I feel like I'm here to do? Mm-hmm <affirmative>. And sometimes we have to  try things to taste that of like, oops, not that. Yeah. Wait, it is this. Don't be afraid to fail. Yeah. Mm-hmm  <affirmative>. So don't be afraid to try things and notice, start the list in your notes app on what lights me  up, what brings me joy. Yeah. Um, and then what have I been trained in? What am I good at? What do  people tell me I'm good at? What do they come to me for? Mm-hmm <affirmative>. Um, what have I  done before, uh mm-hmm <affirmative>. And like I said, I didn't, I couldn't connect all the dots, but now  I look back and it was all part of the training. Yeah. Um, so what have, what have you done before? And  then what do you think people need? Um, because that's, that's part of your purpose. You uniquely have a  view of what people need in the world mm-hmm <affirmative>. And so go offer that, contribute that, and,  and work through that kind of intersection of what lights you up. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:56:45): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:56:46): 

What do you know mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:56:47): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:56:47): 

And what do people need? And you'll start to get some answers right there. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:56:51): 

Yeah. Yeah. Put the work in. Yeah. The homework in, it'll come together. Yeah. I love that. Amazing. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:56:55): 

Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:56:55): 

Um, okay. Anything else you wanna add before we get into some fun rapid fire questions? <laugh>? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:57:01): 

Um, no, I just would want everybody to know they are, they are a loving soul. Yeah. And this might be a  hard time, but it's temporary. It really is temporary. And, um, all will be, well just hang on. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:57:14):

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Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love it. Yeah. You're so good to listen to. It's so fun. So let's start with, um, what do  you do? What's a like a perfect day for you that would have you most at ease and feeling the most love  and compassion, you know? Yeah. What's a good, what does a great day look for you like? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:57:31): 

Oh, so what comes to mind is it's a summer day, first of all. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:57:34): 

Sure. We're 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:57:35): 

Doing this in February, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:57:36): 

<laugh> by winter. Yep. <laugh>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:57:37): 

Um, so a summer day, um, elements of swimming, uh, sitting in the sun, laughing with people, doing  reading or doing some research. Um, I like, uh, I like being an artist. I, I'm a self-trained, uh, painter.  Okay. So I, I know. So I do that, uh, that that would be a perfect day. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:57:59): 

Are you gonna sell your art? I, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:00): 

No. <laugh>? No, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:01): 

Not yet. We've been asked and I'm yet not ready 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:03): 

Yet. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:03): 

I'm not 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:04): 

There yet. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:04): 

Uh, what are you currently reading? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:06): 

Um, okay. What am I reading? I just finished a crazy book called The Best Offer Wins. My friend was  reading it and I said, I need an escape. And she was like, read this one. And it's a Paige Turner. Um, I'm in 

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a book club that has broken country coming up. Uh, so we're reading that. Okay. It's a beautiful book.  Um, and then I am reading Tick Knock Han's, work on Buddhism. Okay. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:29): 

Um, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:29): 

So those are all on my nightstand right now. You 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:31): 

Are busy. When do you sleep? <laugh>. Um, do you have other books or podcasts that you would  recommend to people if they might be looking for some enlightenment or to kinda lift their spirits? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:41): 

Yeah. Oh my gosh, there's so many. I'm a, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:43): 

I like 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:43): 

Podcasts too. Yeah. Yours is awesome. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:45): 

Oh, thank you. Um, 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:47): 

Uh, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:58:47): 

Because of people like you. Yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:58:48): 

Um, the ones I go to to really see a different perspective mm-hmm <affirmative>. Are pulling the thread  by Elise Lunan. Okay. Um, I, um, I will go to, we can do hard things sometimes. Yep. Um, the, um,  center for Action and Contemplation if you want a spiritual Yeah. Uh, platform. Richard Rohrer's work is  beautiful. Um, let's see, what else is in my podcast? Um, feed right now. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:17): 

I know. I'm like, I have so many that I know I can't even organize in my mind at 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:21): 

Loon. Seems to be one I go to a lot right now. Okay. That's probably, yeah. Okay. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:25): 

Pulling

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Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:25): 

The thread. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:26): 

Love it. Um, what's currently on your Kansas City bucket list? 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:29): 

Oh, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:29): 

Gosh. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:30): 

What do you wanna do? So, I watch your feed, <laugh>. Thank you. And, um, let's see what, I think this  FIFA stuff is super exciting coming up. Yeah, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:37): 

I know. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:38): 

I'm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:38): 

So interested to see what the city is gonna look like Yes. When people are coming in and, and just the  energy of it. I know 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:45): 

It's gonna be 

Mindy Hargesheimer (00:59:45): 

So fascinating. 

Ginger Rothhaas (00:59:46): 

My friend opened Atlas nine up by the Legends. Yes. We, you did a story on on that. We did, yeah. Yeah.  So Tucker and I went to college together. Okay. And his wife and Mandy got, so the three of us have been  good friends since our teenage years. And, um, so, uh, I wanna take my family that Rob and I went Yes.  But I wanna take the kids when they're in town to Alice nine. And, um, yeah. And then I haven't been to a  current game yet, so that's definitely on my back list. Oh, you have to go. I know. It's been on my list for  over a year. I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:12): 

Have, um, in a couple weeks I have Danny, who's the VP of communications from the Casey current  calling. Awesome. Coming on to talk about current and FIFA and everything. Yes. But it's, it is amazing  Yeah. What they've done with the stadium. I know. It's cool. I mean, so cool. Truly cool. I know you have  to go and all the

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Ginger Rothhaas (01:00:25): 

Vendors and Yeah. So that's, 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:26): 

That's 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:00:27): 

Very top of my bucket list right now. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:00:28): 

Okay. Um, so you've lived in Kansas City, you've moved away. Yeah. You've moved back. Yeah. What  do you love the most about the city? Mm-hmm. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:00:35): 

I think the city is easy. <laugh> and I, I, I don't know what other word. It's just, um, it's an easy place to  live. It's an easy place to navigate. Um, the warmth. I mean, I look at the work like Jason Sudeikis and has  done, and, you know, I, there are such good people, Paul Rudd, and we have these, these celebrities that  are still grounded in being human and being good and doing good things. And they love their hometown  and they love their hometown. And it makes me love Kansas City even more to see it through their eyes.  Um, so yeah, Heidi Gardner and I mean, we have these really cool people that are really good humans.  Mm-hmm 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:13): 

<affirmative>. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:13): 

Um, I think that's my favorite thing of Kansas City. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:15): 

Love it. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:16): 

Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:16): 

Um, places you love to go, restaurants or mm-hmm <affirmative>. Shops or anything. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:21): 

Oh gosh. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:21): 

Anyone you wanna call out that you love. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:23):

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I know. Um, let's sees, uh, what do I love right now? Push it on the spot. This is what happens to me.  Well, we just went to Enzo in the river market. Yeah. And it was great. In Reza, they're owned by the  same people. Yeah. Um, so we tried both of those. Perfect. Um, I histor, I 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:38): 

Still need to go to Reza. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:40): 

It's so great. And 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:40): 

The street 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:41): 

Cart is right in front 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:42): 

Of it now. Yeah. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:42): 

Um, so that's so fun. I love El Cilantro. That's always a go-to for us. Haven't 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:01:47): 

Been there either. Yes. This is what happens. People think that I've been everywhere. I know. And I have  not <laugh> Okay. That one. Put top your list. I have a list. Yeah. I have a list of places that I still need to  check off my own bucket list. So 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:01:56): 

Yes. Elantra, um, Bella Napoli. Yeah. Um, meds in Brookside. Yeah. Um, my husband, we live way  south, but we love to go north. Good for you. I love the people. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:05): 

Yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:06): 

Yes. That's 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:07): 

So many good things to experience. Yeah. Yes. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:08): 

Take advantage of the city. It's so cool. Perfect. Yeah. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:11): 

Okay. Um, where can people follow you? Yes.

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Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:13): 

Find 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:14): 

You guys? 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:14): 

So, compassion fix.com mm-hmm <affirmative>. And, um, also ginger rois.com, which my last name is  hard. It's R-O-T-H-H-A-A-S. Um, that's where my blog lives. Um, and book and speaking information  lives there. And, um, on Instagram. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:31): 

Yep. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:32): 

At Ginger ROIs, um, and at Compassion Fix. Perfect. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:35): 

Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:36): 

And 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:36): 

We should mention too, so speaking engagements 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:38): 

Yes. Something 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:38): 

You 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:02:39): 

Wanna do more of. I love to speak. I do a lot of that and I love it. Um, perfect. Yeah. That's one of my  favorite things is to be with a big group and see, see people light up and new ideas, land and questions  afterwards and hearing people's stories. Yeah. That gives me life. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:02:54): 

I don't know much about Ted Talks, but I feel like you should do one <laugh>. I feel like that's something  that you absolutely would be, uh, that'd be fun, warranted to do. Okay. Because of what you could put out  there. So, okay. Maybe we just, whoever's in charge of Ted Talks here, let's put that out there, but reach  out Ted Talk. Yeah. But, um, I'm so glad that I got to meet you. Oh, thank you. That night. Thank, and  that we've stayed in touch. I, you, and that you were able come in. This has been so fun. And I, I wanted  people to hear from you and see the light that you are and see what they can get from your team of people

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in Kansas City, because there's so many incredible things that you're offering and doing that will lift  people up. Yeah. So thank you. Yeah. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:03:26): 

I'm so glad to meet you. You're one of those people that instantly, like, you feel safe with and you feel a  bond and no judgment, and you have that aura about you. Well, thank you so much. Um, so you're doing  the, you're doing great work. You really are. Thank you. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:36): 

I love it. I 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:03:37): 

Love it. Awesome. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:37): 

Well, thanks for coming on. 

Ginger Rothhaas (01:03:38): 

Awesome. Thank you for having me. All right. All right. Bye. 

Mindy Hargesheimer (01:03:41): 

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